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I'll add my daughter's boots/blades for reference.

She is now in Jackson Debut Fusion Standards (size 3 1/2) with Eclipse Mist (size 8 1/2) Coro Ace/MK Pro "clones".  These are the old model replaced by the stainless Eclipse Aurora.  She's been on the blade for 5 months and in the boots for about 1 month.  Her previous boot/blade was the Jackson Elle with the stock Mirage.  Once we changed blades her spins were vastly improved.  Now in the new boots she's getting bigger jumps.  Working on her Axel now, wish I could say she's getting close, but no.

I think we're lucky in the sense that so far, stock Jackson boots fit her feet just perfectly.  This new pair of Debuts had no break in at all, just heat molded and done.  We bought them on a Friday and she passed her Preliminary MITF test in them the following Wednesday.  As a side note on the blade fitting, Jackson's blade size chart recommended a size larger that would have fit flush toe to heel.  That didn't seem quite right so we used the 8 1/2 instead of the 8 3/4 Jackson's chart recommended.  That gives the traditional 1/4" gap at the heel.

Interesting anecdote I'll share.  She skates at 2 rinks.  One rink, where the elite skaters train many FS and almost all dancers are in Edea, FS coaches are mostly SP-Teri, younger dance coaches Edea, older ones, Klingbeil/Harlick.  Her other rink is Sp-Teri and Harlick dominant.  I don't think I've seen one Edea there.  Coaches at that rink are in Sp-Teri and Harlick with Wilson and MK blades.

When I asked all her coaches at both rinks about boots not one recommended Edea.  Blade recommendation was universally MK Pro.  I couldn't spend the $$$ on that blade for a few months of use so I got lucky with the closed out clone (almost, pick on Mist is bigger than MK Pro) Mist and bought 3 pairs in 3 sizes for a little more than 1 pair of MK Pros would have cost.  We have one more pair to use then we'll have to decide whether to stick with that profile or move on.  Boots were an easy choice, blades are so much more challenging because you just don't know until you try.  We almost tried the Aurora under the 60 day NQA return policy, but the fitter recommended using that option later when the $$$ go way up for her blades.
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Spectator Skating Discussions / Re: Back-loading IJS Programs
« Last post by amy1984 on Today at 01:35:53 PM »
I think we will see something like this to encourage a balanced program.  It'll probably be something like a max of 3 jumps can earn the bonus.  1 would encourage front loading which is exactly what they were trying to combat when they introduced the rule.

I'm pretty sure someone at the ISU is kicking themselves because I'm pretty sure backloading was NOT what they had in mind when they introduced this rule.
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I saw another interview with Brad Griffies (I think it was him and of course I can't find it now... it might have been Jan Longmire...) where he said basically that they all watch and pray nothing goes wrong.  With the way the ladies twist in spins and stuff apparently nipples slip out more than we'd think.  I'd never considered that.  Yikes!

I feel bad for Gabriella as I'm pretty sure when you break it down that costume mishap probably cost them a gold medal.  But at the same time... I agree with this article.  How was that clasp not triple checked and made with a zillion clasps and closures?
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Spectator Skating Discussions / Back-loading IJS Programs
« Last post by FigureSpins on Today at 12:12:22 PM »
What would happen if they kept the current IJS 10% bonus for jumps in the second half of the program, but limited the count to a single jump element?  (Standalone or combination/sequence)
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Just as an aside, the words "competitive figure skater" is a fire-starter.  Everyone who competes, even at the most-basic levels, considers themselves to be competitive athletes.  However, US Figure Skating divides skaters into "non-qualifying" and "qualifying" athletes.  They refer to the latter as "competitive figure skaters."  I'm not agreeing with that nomenclature but then again, I loved being an ISI Recreational skater, lol.
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^ What she said...honestly answer these questions and your eyes will be opened:

How many lessons does s/he take weekly?
Group or private lessons?
How many days a week does the skater practice outside of lessons?
How many total practice hours, each week?
Do they skate year-round or seasonally?
How carefully do they practice on the ice? 
Are they in off-ice programs, dance or gymnastics?
How much time do they devote to other sports or activities?
Do they have natural ability in athletics or is every skill hard-earned?
Have they had setbacks on- and/or off-ice?  (Injuries, life changes, plateaus, disappointments)

Those who want to achieve can be held back by lack of resources.  Those who live for hopes and dreams have to put in hard work.  Nothing comes easy, everyone is different.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: normal skating level for a teen?
« Last post by Jf12 on February 22, 2018, 05:31:21 PM »
Everyone progresses at a different rate. What level you compete at, if you are participating in US figure skating, depends on what tests you’ve passed.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: 2018 Summer Adult Skate Camps
« Last post by Jf12 on February 22, 2018, 05:29:33 PM »
It seems like it doesn’t overlap with the kids camp again this year.  I heard from someone that this was the case last year and a lot of ice and coaches that were normally there were unavailable.  Does anyone have an opinion on this?
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / normal skating level for a teen?
« Last post by ThinKaRma on February 22, 2018, 03:23:50 PM »
Hi.  Just wondering what would be the "normal" approximate level for a competitive 13 or 14 year old girl, who does singles and has been skating for 7 years? 
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Media Center / Re: The Quint
« Last post by Query on February 22, 2018, 12:42:45 AM »
Additional reasons why I think quints will eventually be possible:

I forgot to include advances in medicine:

1. Presumably the main limiting factor is the strength of the body - primarily bones, ligaments, and muscles.

2. Improvements are being made in athletic and kinesio tape taping techniques, which use external tape to reinforce internal body parts. That won't help the muscles - although elastic tape, such as across the front of the knee and the back of the ankle, might be used to store some energy for the beginning of the jump, and to absorb impact at the end.

3. On top of this, if I understand correctly, surgical repair techniques for fractured bones and torn muscles and ligaments are improving. In some cases, people claim that the repairs are stronger than the original undamaged tissue. We are a long ways from creating the "Bionic man" and the "Bionic women" - but perhaps we are at the point of being able to sufficiently reinforce such tissues that one could perhaps stop worrying as much about breaking or tearing anything. If not, we will get there. And again, you must eventually be able to increase elastic forces inside muscles to effectively store more energy in those muscles, that can be released when you contract those muscles.

4. I don't know if the G forces associated with the aerial spins would be great enough and long enough to cause unconsciousness - but the military folk worked out ways of partially solving that problem in fighter pilots long ago. First off, they can tense specific muscles. Second, they wear G-suits - which are more or less comparable to compression underwear - something that many athletes already use, for other athletic reasons. We can't wear anything as bulky or heavy as what pilots wear - but we probably don't need to, as I doubt the G forces are anywhere near as big.

5. In short, the problems associated with generating fast aerial spins for more difficult jumps is to some extent transition from being a pure physical training problem - which might or might not be sufficient - into an engineering problem, involving improved medical taping, surgery, and taping and surgical materials, which makes it inevitable that it WILL be solved.

In fact, these things will revolutionize all athletic activities, not just figure skating. It WILL happen.

6. You can say that sports organizations could try to prevent these improvements, for example, by outlawing unnecessary surgery. But if an athlete deliberately pushes their body until it breaks or tears, that surgery then becomes medically necessary.

7. Some people claim that transgender females (as defined by current IOC rules) may perform better than cisgender females in certain sports, possibly including figure skating. IF that is true, then transgender females may be able to perform more difficult jumps (including quads) than cisgender females have been able to do - another area of effective medical enhancement.

8. Likewise, it seems obvious that genetic engineering will eventually produce better athletes than currently exist.
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