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Identify this jump

Started by nicklaszlo, October 09, 2011, 01:31:05 PM

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nicklaszlo

A half flip is

Left back inside take off with right toe pick, 1/2 counterclockwise rotation, land with left toe pick and right forward inside

What is

Left back inside take off with right toe pick, 1/2 counterclockwise rotation, land with right toe pick and left forward outside

It is a sort of flip/ballet jump hybrid.  Does it have a name?

PrettySk8Dress

Quote from: nicklaszlo on October 09, 2011, 01:31:05 PM


What is

Left back inside take off with right toe pick, 1/2 counterclockwise rotation, land with right toe pick and left forward outside

 Does it have a name?

Is it called a mazurka jump /  a half mazurka ? I'm just taking a guess.
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nicklaszlo

Quote from: PrettySk8Dress on October 09, 2011, 03:36:25 PM
Is it called a mazurka jump ?

That has a right back outside takeoff, but has the same landing.

Isk8NYC

It's also called a Half-Flip jump.  The USFSA accepts landing on either toe, the ISI requires that the skater land on the toe opposite the take-off toe.  (The same is true of the Half-Lutz jump, btw)  The ISI considers a flip/lutz that lands on the same takeoff toe to be a "1/4" jump, as techskater points out.  It is an uncaptured jump, which can be performed at any level in an ISI competition.

In your example, the skater is taking off and landing on the same toe.  I use this as a drill before teaching the full flip because the skater lands on the correct foot (albeit, forward-facing) and it keeps the free leg up in front.

It has nothing in common with a Mazurka jump.  I was teaching Mazurkas today, what a coincidence!
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techskater

It's often called a 1/4 flip

retired

It's a split jump without the split.

CrossStroke

Quote from: slusher on October 13, 2011, 03:01:58 PM
It's a split jump without the split.

A split jump lands on the opposite toe, like the "traditional" half-flip (please correct me if I'm wrong).

retired

Quote from: renatele on October 14, 2011, 10:45:38 AM
A split jump lands on the opposite toe, like the "traditional" half-flip (please correct me if I'm wrong).

eh, my fault, I read the original toe take off wrong and walked it on the floor wrong.   It's a half flip - a half flip as taught by my rink with the right toe-right toe-glide edge.    Seriously I didn't know what it was either until I got ripped for it by a coach once.