Hey there, everyone!
I'm wondering if there is a source or site where I can download and print tracing patterns for various elements; specifically waltz 8, forward crossroll, chasse sequence, that kind of thing. I know what these things are supposed to look like, but I throw my foot too far over on crossrolls, and my waltz 8's are all over the map. As a visual person, I work better with a reference point. (THIS - Aim for THIS.)
And a chasse sequence diagram would just make my entire day...
Thanks so much!
- P
Are the patterns available in the rulebook not sufficient?
There's a rulebook? Where do I get that? I am *such* a noob!
In the "On the Boards" forum, there's a sticky note with links to all the various rulebooks and handbooks.
http://skatingforums.com/index.php?topic=11.0
The USFSA has the rulebook and tests book online, but I don't see the tracings you're looking for; maybe Skittl can link you to the right document.
However, the ISI handbook definitely has drawings of each turn. It's not online, but there may be some scans of that page on the internet. The other rulebooks in that thread might have the drawings.
This is perfect, thank you. I just have no idea where to find these things, I only get flashes of it and no copies!
I guess the ones in the rule book aren't detailed enough if you want a tracing of every turn. But they do show you relative position and where to put the turn on the ice.
Quote from: Isk8NYC on March 14, 2013, 09:15:37 PM
The USFSA has the rulebook and tests book online, but I don't see the tracings you're looking for; maybe Skittl can link you to the right document.
The diagrams are a majority of the tests book. They are more of a starting point than a finishing point for learning the patterns.
Quote from: nicklaszlo on March 14, 2013, 10:41:05 PM
The diagrams are a majority of the tests book. They are more of a starting point than a finishing point for learning the patterns.
For Moves and Dance patterns, that's true, but not for the turns that the OP was interested in reviewing. The ISI Handbook page would be perfect, but it's not online.
About.com has a good illustrations of turn tracings:
http://figureskating.about.com/od/figureskatingtechnique/a/turns.htm
http://figureskating.about.com/od/glossaryofskatingterms/g/mohawk.htm
http://figureskating.about.com/od/glossarylette2/g/choctaw.htm
Um, I have some old schooled figure skating books that cover the basic figures, but not exactly the ones you are looking for.
Good point - the USFSA Compulsory Figures book would have the tracings, too, in Figure format.
Quote from: Isk8NYC on March 14, 2013, 11:04:47 PM
For Moves and Dance patterns, that's true, but not for the turns that the OP was interested in reviewing.
The OP asked about waltz 8, crossrolls, and chasse sequence. Aren't these all move in the field?
Quote from: Skittl1321 on March 15, 2013, 07:56:37 AM
The OP asked about waltz 8, crossrolls, and chasse sequence. Aren't these all move in the field?
Oh, I thought I read brackets and counters. My mistake, sorry.
I briefly looked into the OLD books I own, they do go over cross rolls and chasse sequences to varying degrees: paragraphs of instructions, some black and white photo sequences, and the cutest one is placing relative foot prints on the path of travel.
Old thread (http://skatingforums.com/index.php?topic=586.0) on skating books.
Quote from: pegasus99 on March 14, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
As a visual person, I work better with a reference point. (THIS - Aim for THIS.)
There are several instruction videos on youtube, "Figure skating elements" demonstrated by ice dancers Usova/Zhulin
Take a look and see if they help?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcIphpKo9Q8/
Awesome - all of this is very helpful. I downloaded and printed the sections of the USFS rulebook for Pre-Bronze and Bronze for my notebook. Shockingly, I can do some of the things for Silver... which was encouraging! (Not very well, but I can only get better, right?)
YouTube has been of a tremendous value in seeing some of the elements in action, but any pointers to specific video series is fabulous.
Most helpful - thank you!
The USFSA also has videos on its web site: https://web.archive.org/web/20140227002004/http://www.usfsa.org/Shell.asp?sid=35082 (https://web.archive.org/web/20140227002004/http://www.usfsa.org/Shell.asp?sid=35082)
The videos are kind of grainy, but they are helpful.
Quote from: pegasus99 on March 15, 2013, 04:42:37 PM
Shockingly, I can do some of the things for Silver... which was encouraging! (Not very well, but I can only get better, right?)
Haha wait until your coach measures them against the testing standard, or worse, his/her own standard :)
Best of luck if coach happens to have ice dance background :)
You might want to seek out a coach who has skated figures. Seriously. The figure background is so undervalued yet so important these days.