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On the Ice => The Pro Shop => Topic started by: Cryo on March 06, 2013, 11:10:06 PM

Title: Lift angle mist vs. Legacy
Post by: Cryo on March 06, 2013, 11:10:06 PM
I was wondering if the lift angle of the Ultima legacy was significantly different than for the eclipse mist or coronation ace?  I saw a you tube video that showed Jackson blades having really low lift angles (like a worn out blade they said), but not really sure how reliable the source is. I don't have a pro shop to go check either.
Title: Re: Lift angle mist vs. Legacy
Post by: Skittl1321 on March 07, 2013, 08:07:50 AM
I saw that video too. I don't know about the blades you are asking about, but I've skated on Paramounts, Gold Seals, and Legacys and all of them have worked well for me after a small adjustment period.  As far as I can tell, there is no signifigant difference in how they effect skating, at least at my level (low) of skating.
Title: Re: Lift angle mist vs. Legacy
Post by: fsk8r on March 07, 2013, 08:43:33 AM
I had ISE Sterlings before switching to Ultima Legacy and the Legacy has a higher lift angle to the Sterlings. It's fairly comparable to the Coronation Ace as my coach would have complained if it wasn't as she was frustrated with the Sterlings.
Title: Re: Lift angle mist vs. Legacy
Post by: sarahspins on March 07, 2013, 01:49:49 PM
I'm not convinced that any of the differences really matter on the ice - not when you consider that there ARE quite a few top level skaters using ultima blades.  They can't be that bad :)

It's one thing to show the differences in a video online, but they aren't providing any evidence to back up the claims on the ice.
Title: Re: Lift angle mist vs. Legacy
Post by: Query on March 07, 2013, 03:51:47 PM
I don't think there is much doubt that there is a smaller lift angle on most Jackson Ultima blades than on most MK and Wilson blades, regardless of which precise definition you use of "lift angle".

But is that good or bad? There is no consensus.

If I ran a pro shop I could say: Buy all the blades, and see which one you like.  :)
Title: Re: Lift angle mist vs. Legacy
Post by: Cryo on March 07, 2013, 11:44:35 PM
Thanks was worried low lift angle might cause daughter some face plants moving up from ultima mark iv, but it seems it won't necessarily.
Title: Re: Lift angle mist vs. Legacy
Post by: sarahspins on March 08, 2013, 12:01:53 AM
if she's already in an ultima blade I wouldn't expect much of a transition to another ultima blade even if it's not the same model.  My daughter went from ultima MK IV to MK Double Stars (also a low level blade) and there was basically no adjustment for her at her level.  I've just ordered her new skates and the only reason I didn't opt for the stock blade was that I got a really good deal on some coro ace's on ebay :)