When do you start counting revs for spins? For one-foot spins, the spin technically starts right after the 3-turn. For the two-foot spin, when do you start counting?
You start counting revolutions when you are completely set in position. For a 1 foot spin, it is when you have established your 1 foot spin position. For a bielman it is when you have fully stretched into your position. The revolutions between positions don't necessarily count...
If your main concern is with having enough revolutions to pass your skating class/level (FS1, I think you said), the best person to ask is an instructor or other person who decides what "success" is. For competitive skating, there are formalized rules about spins and when the counting of revolutions should start, but I would not be surprised to find that an instructor might be less fussy for evaluating a two foot spin.
Quote from: platyhiker on January 28, 2013, 09:30:46 AM
If your main concern is with having enough revolutions to pass your skating class/level (FS1, I think you said), the best person to ask is an instructor or other person who decides what "success" is. For competitive skating, there are formalized rules about spins and when the counting of revolutions should start, but I would not be surprised to find that an instructor might be less fussy for evaluating a two foot spin.
No, my main concern is just how to recognize spin count. I know how to count revolutions, but I don't know where to start. It's from a spectator point of view. :)
Quote from: Kim to the Max on January 28, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
You start counting revolutions when you are completely set in position. For a 1 foot spin, it is when you have established your 1 foot spin position. For a bielman it is when you have fully stretched into your position. The revolutions between positions don't necessarily count...
Ah, I see...it's not about the 3-turn, but about getting your desired position, whatever that is. Thanks!
My daughter is told to not count the first rotation. This way if she things she is in position and isn't she won't be short a rotation.
Hop, that's the conservative approach. :)
My coach always insists on my learning to hold the spins far longer than I need. For example, when I was having trouble with the backspin (I could barely get two revolutions!), she said to me, "No. Try for four or five." And I bugged out because I could barely get two (I needed three), but it worked. It tricked my brain. My brain had been so freaking out about three, now it was freaking out about four or five, and I was able to do three revolutions without thinking about it.
My coach pushes for 3 in addition to the minimum in an attempt to boost GOEs. :love:
I start counting after the entry 3-turn. I really miss the days when I could do 20+ revs and go back and forth between feet 3 or 4 times in the same spin combo. Now all I can do is maybe 10 - 14 revs in an ordinary no-frills scratch spin.
Quote from: treesprite on January 30, 2013, 05:15:26 AM
I start counting after the entry 3-turn. I really miss the days when I could do 20+ revs and go back and forth between feet 3 or 4 times in the same spin combo. Now all I can do is maybe 10 - 14 revs in an ordinary no-frills scratch spin.
:-[ Oh My!
Anything over the first turn is an absolute bonus. I dream of being distressed by "maybe 10-14 revs" ;) I've not been skating long, only 18 months. Someday it will happen.