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Title: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: sk8great on January 16, 2013, 12:09:54 AM
Is creasing a good thing? I heard its a sign that a boot is breaking down. What are signs of skates breaking down?
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: sarahspins on January 16, 2013, 11:08:55 AM
Lack of lateral (sideways) support determines when a boot breaks down.. and that can happen without lots of creasing in the boot.  Creases typically facilitate forward bend in a boot that is simply "broken in", but they can contribute to break down when they are extreme.
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: sk8great on January 16, 2013, 05:32:43 PM
Quote from: sarahspins on January 16, 2013, 11:08:55 AM
Lack of lateral (sideways) support determines when a boot breaks down.. and that can happen without lots of creasing in the boot.  Creases typically facilitate forward bend in a boot that is simply "broken in", but they can contribute to break down when they are extreme.

So creasing is a sign that my boots are broken in?
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: hopskipjump on January 16, 2013, 05:41:15 PM
It means you are wearing your boots to skate in. 
the amount of creasing varies by boot fit, amount of skating, weight, technique etc.
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: sarahspins on January 16, 2013, 09:06:55 PM
Quote from: sk8great on January 16, 2013, 05:32:43 PM
So creasing is a sign that my boots are broken in?

Possibly... but it's not the only thing that will tell you your skates are broken in. They can be fully broken in without the creasing, and you may see creasing before they are fully broken in - there are a lot of variables in play with differing feet, boots, and skating styles :)

When they have molded to your feet and you no longer have trouble getting enough ankle bend, usually that's when they are broken in.
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: sampaguita on January 17, 2013, 08:46:14 AM
Quote from: sk8great on January 16, 2013, 05:32:43 PM
So creasing is a sign that my boots are broken in?

Depends on how big the crease is, and where it is. Tongue creases are pretty normal. If it creases in the region where the flex notch should be, and the crease is about 3/4 in long or longer, it's time to change the boot.
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: VAsk8r on January 17, 2013, 08:52:02 PM
What's the flex notch?
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: hopskipjump on January 17, 2013, 09:04:13 PM
This little cut out:
http://icepinkie.com/image/1/0/600/images/skates_flex_notch_.jpg
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: AgnesNitt on January 17, 2013, 09:13:25 PM
Quote from: VAsk8r on January 17, 2013, 08:52:02 PM
What's the flex notch?

There's also dance scallops  http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.4893828310566100&pid=1.7 Which you'll note is two flex notches separated by a single lace hole
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: sk8great on January 17, 2013, 09:22:20 PM
There is a bit of creasing near on my flex notch. Should I be concerned?
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: sampaguita on January 18, 2013, 07:38:53 AM
Quote from: sk8great on January 17, 2013, 09:22:20 PM
There is a bit of creasing near on my flex notch. Should I be concerned?

How old is the boot? And how long is the crease?
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: VAsk8r on January 18, 2013, 09:38:41 AM
Quote from: hopskipjump on January 17, 2013, 09:04:13 PM
This little cut out:
http://icepinkie.com/image/1/0/600/images/skates_flex_notch_.jpg
Ah, thanks. My skates are creasing there, too. But it's not 3/4 of an inch. Fingers crossed it stays minimal for awhile. It's more prominent in the left boot than the right, which makes me think it's from spinning.
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: treesprite on January 20, 2013, 04:26:29 AM
You should see the rental skates where I skate/work. Every pair has horrible creases from people wearing them too big. Sometimes people will bring them back to the counter, asking for a different pair because the inside of the creases often causes severe discomfort.

I don't think my Jackson Elite Plus boots will ever show creases, because they are so hard. I think for boots that stiff, the breakdown is more from the insides of them.
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: sarahspins on January 21, 2013, 09:43:44 PM
Quote from: treesprite on January 20, 2013, 04:26:29 AM
I don't think my Jackson Elite Plus boots will ever show creases, because they are so hard. I think for boots that stiff, the breakdown is more from the insides of them.

Mine never showed any outwards signs of breaking down.. they had very very slight creases at the flex notches, but they'd had those since they were just a few months old.  The linings had begin to wear thin and had holes in places, and they were rapidly beginning to lose lateral support when I finally started skating in my new boots.  I was actually surprised at the difference because they didn't "look" that bad.
Title: Re: Creasing + Boot Breaking Down
Post by: hopskipjump on January 21, 2013, 10:01:06 PM
Same here - they looked fine - the difference, they were really soft.  You might not even notice unless you compare with a new boot at the proshop.