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Title: Q's regarding Alpha-Delta comp
Post by: sampaguita on June 12, 2012, 09:04:20 PM
These are a lot of questions, but I would really appreciate it if you could help me out. :)

1. Alpha-Delta competitors are required to do 1 element from FS 1, but should these elements be passing FS1 standard? (ex. two-foot spins must have at least 6 non-stop revs)
2. How many FS 1 elements can a competitor put in? Are there extra points for putting more than 1 element? How about doing the same element twice?
3. Let's say you are in Gamma, can you include an element in Delta? Will it count for extra points as an element or will it just be considered as a transition?
4. On Spotlight presentations: I remember that all they judge here is acting skills (no particular moves required), but how does one determine if a presentation is Gamma or Delta level, for example?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Q's regarding Alpha-Delta comp
Post by: MadMac on June 12, 2012, 11:49:55 PM
The rule says to include one (1) element from FS1, and that is exactly what it means. No, a Gamma program may not include an element from Delta. The FS1 element is skated to the best of the skater's ability. It may or may not be performed to the same standard that would be expected from a more advanced skater, but it must be included in the program.
Title: Re: Q's regarding Alpha-Delta comp
Post by: sampaguita on June 13, 2012, 03:32:36 AM
Quote from: MadMac on June 12, 2012, 11:49:55 PM
No, a Gamma program may not include an element from Delta.

Would you be penalized for doing inside/outside edges then?  ??? I mean, skating is all about inside/outside edges, even for those in Alpha-Gamma...
Title: Re: Q's regarding Alpha-Delta comp
Post by: Skittl1321 on June 13, 2012, 07:26:35 AM
The edges as a required element are consecutive on a line. Don't do them that way if they aren't your level.

You can still skate on an edge.
Title: Re: Q's regarding Alpha-Delta comp
Post by: PrettySk8Dress on June 13, 2012, 06:36:26 PM
Quote from: sampaguita on June 12, 2012, 09:04:20 PM
I would really appreciate it if you could help me out. :)


4. On Spotlight presentations: I remember that all they judge here is acting skills (no particular moves required), but how does one determine if a presentation is Gamma or Delta level, for example?

Thank you!

I'm not sure what you are asking, but I will try and answer. Although there is a bit of technical difference in the abilities between Gamma and Delta, this does not come into play all that much when skating Spotlight. Spotlight is judged on entertainment elements and ability, and there potentially would not be that much difference in the potential entertainment value of the skater's programs. So having a Gamma Spotlight program compete with a Delta Spotlight program would not be a mis-match. If a Gamma skater competed their Spotlight program against, say, a FS7 skater's Spotlight program, then that would be an unfair match-up. Not only is there a world of difference between the technical merits of the two, but there would be a world of difference in the entertainment values of the respective programs, too.  Spotlight skaters are grouped according to their relative entertainment abilities in competition, even if this means that levels next to one another are put together for Spotlight.

BTW---I have seen and judged Delta and below skaters that have presented some of the best Spotlight programs I've ever seen as far as entertainment goes, and I have seen and judged higher level skaters, FS 6 and above, who have performed some of the most boring and horrible Spotlight programs that would bring one to tears of grief. Go figure !