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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / What do you pack for a competition?
« Last post by Vicki7 on February 23, 2018, 05:01:57 PM »
I'm going to my first competition away from my home rink. I'll be away for 6 nights total. I'm starting to think about packing and it feels like there's so much to remember!

I was hoping to get everything into a carry on sized suitcase, with some stuff in my skate bag if need be. But I've realised I'm not sure what I should be taking, beyond the basics of skates, dresses, other clothes etc.

I'm travelling around 300 miles, by train with 2 changes en route.

So, lovely skaters, what do you pack for an out of town competition?

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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: normal skating level for a teen?
« Last post by FigureSpins on February 23, 2018, 04:33:03 PM »
I wasn't taking a survey - those are the questions I ask families, usually in a more roundabout way.  When a skater says "(Skater A) and I have been skating the same amount of time and she's so far (ahead/behind) me..." my reply is to compare training plans.  It really opens their eyes to the need for consistent practices.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: normal skating level for a teen?
« Last post by Sibelius on February 23, 2018, 03:34:02 PM »
^ What she said...honestly answer these questions and your eyes will be opened:

Going to answer these for my daughter.  She is 9, started once a week group lessons at 7, got serious about 1 year ago:

How many lessons does s/he take weekly? 4 private lessons (2 Edges/MITF, 2 Jump/Spin)
Group or private lessons? 2 Group Axel classes (one led by her jump/spin coach), 1 group Edge, 1 group Power, 1 group Stroking
How many days a week does the skater practice outside of lessons? 6 days
How many total practice hours, each week? 10 hours
Do they skate year-round or seasonally? year round
How carefully do they practice on the ice? focused on skills directed by coaches, little to no play
Are they in off-ice programs, dance or gymnastics? 3 hours of ballet class/week + 1 hour private ballet lesson/week, off ice stretching and strength
How much time do they devote to other sports or activities? little, band, gymnastics in the back yard
Do they have natural ability in athletics or is every skill hard-earned? Natural athlete, not a natural skater
Have they had setbacks on- and/or off-ice?  (Injuries, life changes, plateaus, disappointments) took a long time to get her flip, loop and sit spin, was just determined to work harder! Had to "Retry" ISI Gamma and took 2 tries for FS4.  It was after failing Gamma (failed by her current MITF coach) she got serious about practice.

She has passed USFSA Pre-Pre and Preliminary MITF, currently working on Pre-Juv MITF. She had her first "competition" in a  head to head event at her home rink a couple of weeks ago (she won her group).  She is beginning work with her coaches on a program for next season.  At first she'll compete "no test" until she has an Axel, then compete in USFSA Preliminary as well as begin taking the USFSA Freeskate tests.

Those who want to achieve can be held back by lack of resources.  Those who live for hopes and dreams have to put in hard work.  Nothing comes easy, everyone is different.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: What boots and blade do you wear???
« Last post by Sibelius on February 23, 2018, 02:28:00 PM »
I'll add my daughter's boots/blades for reference.

She is now in Jackson Debut Fusion Standards (size 3 1/2) with Eclipse Mist (size 8 1/2) Coro Ace/MK Pro "clones".  These are the old model replaced by the stainless Eclipse Aurora.  She's been on the blade for 5 months and in the boots for about 1 month.  Her previous boot/blade was the Jackson Elle with the stock Mirage.  Once we changed blades her spins were vastly improved.  Now in the new boots she's getting bigger jumps.  Working on her Axel now, wish I could say she's getting close, but no.

I think we're lucky in the sense that so far, stock Jackson boots fit her feet just perfectly.  This new pair of Debuts had no break in at all, just heat molded and done.  We bought them on a Friday and she passed her Preliminary MITF test in them the following Wednesday.  As a side note on the blade fitting, Jackson's blade size chart recommended a size larger that would have fit flush toe to heel.  That didn't seem quite right so we used the 8 1/2 instead of the 8 3/4 Jackson's chart recommended.  That gives the traditional 1/4" gap at the heel.

Interesting anecdote I'll share.  She skates at 2 rinks.  One rink, where the elite skaters train many FS and almost all dancers are in Edea, FS coaches are mostly SP-Teri, younger dance coaches Edea, older ones, Klingbeil/Harlick.  Her other rink is Sp-Teri and Harlick dominant.  I don't think I've seen one Edea there.  Coaches at that rink are in Sp-Teri and Harlick with Wilson and MK blades.

When I asked all her coaches at both rinks about boots not one recommended Edea.  Blade recommendation was universally MK Pro.  I couldn't spend the $$$ on that blade for a few months of use so I got lucky with the closed out clone (almost, pick on Mist is bigger than MK Pro) Mist and bought 3 pairs in 3 sizes for a little more than 1 pair of MK Pros would have cost.  We have one more pair to use then we'll have to decide whether to stick with that profile or move on.  Boots were an easy choice, blades are so much more challenging because you just don't know until you try.  We almost tried the Aurora under the 60 day NQA return policy, but the fitter recommended using that option later when the $$$ go way up for her blades.
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Spectator Skating Discussions / Re: Back-loading IJS Programs
« Last post by amy1984 on February 23, 2018, 01:35:53 PM »
I think we will see something like this to encourage a balanced program.  It'll probably be something like a max of 3 jumps can earn the bonus.  1 would encourage front loading which is exactly what they were trying to combat when they introduced the rule.

I'm pretty sure someone at the ISU is kicking themselves because I'm pretty sure backloading was NOT what they had in mind when they introduced this rule.
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Spectator Skating Discussions / Re: Interesting take on the costume problem
« Last post by amy1984 on February 23, 2018, 01:31:30 PM »
I saw another interview with Brad Griffies (I think it was him and of course I can't find it now... it might have been Jan Longmire...) where he said basically that they all watch and pray nothing goes wrong.  With the way the ladies twist in spins and stuff apparently nipples slip out more than we'd think.  I'd never considered that.  Yikes!

I feel bad for Gabriella as I'm pretty sure when you break it down that costume mishap probably cost them a gold medal.  But at the same time... I agree with this article.  How was that clasp not triple checked and made with a zillion clasps and closures?
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Spectator Skating Discussions / Back-loading IJS Programs
« Last post by FigureSpins on February 23, 2018, 12:12:22 PM »
What would happen if they kept the current IJS 10% bonus for jumps in the second half of the program, but limited the count to a single jump element?  (Standalone or combination/sequence)
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: normal skating level for a teen?
« Last post by FigureSpins on February 23, 2018, 12:09:44 PM »
Just as an aside, the words "competitive figure skater" is a fire-starter.  Everyone who competes, even at the most-basic levels, considers themselves to be competitive athletes.  However, US Figure Skating divides skaters into "non-qualifying" and "qualifying" athletes.  They refer to the latter as "competitive figure skaters."  I'm not agreeing with that nomenclature but then again, I loved being an ISI Recreational skater, lol.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: normal skating level for a teen?
« Last post by FigureSpins on February 23, 2018, 12:07:21 PM »
^ What she said...honestly answer these questions and your eyes will be opened:

How many lessons does s/he take weekly?
Group or private lessons?
How many days a week does the skater practice outside of lessons?
How many total practice hours, each week?
Do they skate year-round or seasonally?
How carefully do they practice on the ice? 
Are they in off-ice programs, dance or gymnastics?
How much time do they devote to other sports or activities?
Do they have natural ability in athletics or is every skill hard-earned?
Have they had setbacks on- and/or off-ice?  (Injuries, life changes, plateaus, disappointments)

Those who want to achieve can be held back by lack of resources.  Those who live for hopes and dreams have to put in hard work.  Nothing comes easy, everyone is different.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: normal skating level for a teen?
« Last post by Jf12 on February 22, 2018, 05:31:21 PM »
Everyone progresses at a different rate. What level you compete at, if you are participating in US figure skating, depends on what tests you’ve passed.
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