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Title: Testing from the Judges' Perspective
Post by: FigureSpins on December 28, 2010, 05:06:56 PM
I found a few documents on the USFSA website that clarify what judges expect during USFSA testing.

New and Revised MIF Test Standards for Judges (revised 9/2010)
http://usfsa.org/Content/MIF%20Test%20Standards.pdf

New Moves in the Field & Revised Moves (revised 9/2010)
Test Standards /Expectations & Common Errors
http://usfsa.org/Content/PSA%20Common%20Errors%20for%20Attendees.pdf

Trial Judges' Test Forms:
http://usfsa.org/shell.asp?sid=20820
(All Moves in the Field forms were revised 12/2010)

Moves Testing Patterns and Demonstration Videos:
http://usfsa.org/Shell.asp?sid=42287
Title: Re: Testing from the Judges' Perspective
Post by: techskater on December 30, 2010, 08:41:40 PM
The videos are "not necessarily to passing standard"
Title: Re: Testing from the Judges' Perspective
Post by: FigureSpins on December 30, 2010, 11:10:12 PM
The videos are "not necessarily to passing standard"
Yes, that's what the disclaimer says on the Patterns and Demonstrations webpages.  However, the patterns are accurate and those free videos provide a basic idea of what the patterns should look like, although imitating them is not enough to pass the tests. 

Resources available from the PSA:

PSA Moves in the Field, NEW 2009 5th Edition Booklet (https://netforum.avectra.com/eweb/shopping/shopping.aspx?site=psa&shopsearch=moves&shopsearchcat=top 100 products&prd_key=0d47b98b-bb6f-465a-a39c-a375196fe090) ($15)

I highly recommend the 5th Edition booklet.  The newest version includes notes from the judges' workshops that were held right before the new Moves were introduced in 9/2010.

DVDs:
Moves in the Field DVD - 2 Disc Set  (4th Edition) (https://netforum.avectra.com/eweb/shopping/shopping.aspx?site=psa&shopsearch=moves&shopsearchcat=top 100 products&prd_key=9402fd6b-10db-4d52-80ec-f3aa39761e27)  ($60)

New 5th Edition Moves in the Field DVD (https://netforum.avectra.com/eweb/shopping/shopping.aspx?site=psa&prd_key=508e2ff0-d288-4fff-95d1-1fddc802358f) (New and Revised Moves only) ($40)

There is no single DVD set for the 9/2010 current Moves tests.  Patterns that weren't changed are on the 4th edition DVD; new and revised patterns are shown on the 5th edition DVD.
Title: Re: Testing from the Judges' Perspective
Post by: techskater on December 31, 2010, 06:58:17 AM
They fixed Novice #1?  When they first posted them, the transitions between segment 2 and 3 and 3 and 4 were wrong
Title: Re: Testing from the Judges' Perspective
Post by: FigureSpins on December 31, 2010, 03:35:28 PM
They fixed Novice #1?  When they first posted them, the transitions between segment 2 and 3 and 3 and 4 were wrong
That's different from "not up to passing standard."  If it's wrong, you should send US Figure Skating that feedback so they can remove the video from the webpage.  You'd be able to vouch for that video's correctness more than I since I didn't examine every video and pattern. 

Could you take a look and let us know, please? 

I posted the page link as a courtesy for people who wanted to print the patterns individually - it's convenient.  The Novice #1 pattern matches the rulebook pattern. 
Title: Re: Testing from the Judges' Perspective
Post by: phoenix on January 01, 2011, 11:55:18 PM
Yes, the Novice 1 video has been fixed. The one up is now correct--although I'm having my skater do a full 5 sets of turns on the first 2 lobes & she only does 4. I believe they show 5 in the book.
Title: Re: Testing from the Judges' Perspective
Post by: techskater on January 02, 2011, 11:25:52 AM
Someone initially mentioned it after going to a seminar last year.  I would gather that they had fixed it, but caution that the original video was incorrect
Title: Re: Testing from the Judges' Perspective
Post by: CrossStroke on January 03, 2011, 12:01:24 AM
Hmm, it seems to me that Novice back twizzles video is also incorrect - the skater in the video steps to FO edge after the twizzle, while the diagram shows FI.