I'm willing to contribute skate weights to your database, if you'd like. With five skater owners in the family, I have a bunch of different boots, sizes, brands and models.
Please post any information you have here! It's fun to compare skates!
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Update#3:Well I skated today with the gel arch inserts and they felt comfortable at first. But eventually they felt like rocks and hurt worse than not having them there. So I took them out. This time I laced the skate as loosely as possible to see if that would help my arches feel better without the arch support. This is totally counter-intuitive. I was already trying to keep the laces on the looser side, but this time I made them as loose as possible while still having some support left to keep the skates on my feet.
It does take longer now for arch pain to build up, but I still have to sit down periodically to let my arches recover.
Despite the footbed not being 100% comfortable, the camel spin and most things were a lot better today as I figured out all of the balance points on the new blades.
Only the jumps are still crap.
Even with the skates tied loose, when I do spins, the support feels great and flex of the tongue is great. No problems there.
But the jumps desperately need more support. I can literally feel the boot slide slightly on my heel when I try to take off for a jump because I’ve tied the skates so loosely. It doesn’t scare me, because the boot isn’t really going to fall off my foot, but it does mean my jump has zero height since the boot isn’t helping at all.
I’m hoping my arches will strengthen over time, which will allow me to tie the skate a bit tighter and hopefully finally allow me to get back to jumping normally.
In conclusion, if I can get my arches strong enough and my ankles stronger (or skates tighter without pain) for jump support, I think the looser ankles and flex in these skates is a great thing for stuff like pointing your toes and sit spins etc.
Update#4:My coach suggested I try putting the gel inserts underneath the typical Edea foot insert.
I played around with positioning off-ice until I could not feel the inserts.
If you can feel the inserts, they might not be in the right place.
Then I tested that on-ice to see if it was any better:
Looks like the gel inserts are going to work out after all!! I can feel them but they’re not hurting me now that I've placed them underneath the Edea foot insert. yay!!!
Conclusion: if you’re having problems with Edea’s footbed because of arch pain, try some arch inserts underneath the Edea footpad. And move them around until you can't feel them or barely feel them so it doesn’t hurt after you’ve been skating for awhile.
Once you find the right spot for your feet, it’s like magic.
I probably have slightly pronated feet or Edea's heel is too high for my natural footbed or something. My old Jackson skates had a much lower heel or more room to pronate a bit inside the boot.
If you’re having trouble with the fit of Edea’s toe box or sides, then you have the wrong-size boot or you didn’t get it heatmolded in the correct spots.
I find when I can’t control my edges, I need to tie the boot a bit tighter. So you want to tie the boot as loosely as you can to avoid any arch or instep pain etc, but still tight enough to have enough support for your edge control.
Same with jumps. I had to really tighten up the boot from the bend point and higher to be able to do jumps.
So if you can’t do jumps with any height, tighten up the laces some more.
If it really starts to hurt somewhere, loosen that area a bit.
That’s how you find the sweet spot with these boots and their laces.
It only took me three ice sessions to fix my arch problems and get used to these skates. So that’s not bad at all. Now I only have occasional balance checks because of the larger toe pick.
I hope this post provides useful information for anyone else considering buying Edea skates or working thru their own Edea problems. I will update this post if anything else happens or changes in the future, but I am very happy with my skates now. I don't think they are "miracle" skates or anything
(especially since it sounds like Jackson and others have updated their skate lines to more closely resemble Edea's features), but I do think the lightweight feature and the shorter boot height etc allow skaters to flex their ankle more for sit spins, jump landings, and point their toe a lot easier.