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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2012, 09:17:27 PM »
** New Round! **

Skate forward on a RFI edge
Jump and rotate CCW
Land on a LBI edge

What is it?

Hint: takes off forward, lands backward
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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2012, 09:23:29 PM »
Half loop?

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2012, 09:31:23 PM »
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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2012, 09:40:27 PM »
3-jump or a jumped 3-turn  :)

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2012, 09:52:03 PM »
Skate forward on a RFI edge
Jump and rotate CCW
Land on a LBI edge

Kind of like a bracket jump, but it changes feet.  I don't know that I have heard a name for it. 

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2012, 10:07:18 PM »
That is just a jumped mohawk unless I'm missing something... right foot, ccw rotation, left foot, that's more like a mohawk.  If it was bracket like it would be cw.

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2012, 10:17:38 PM »
That is just a jumped mohawk unless I'm missing something... right foot, ccw rotation, left foot, that's more like a mohawk.  If it was bracket like it would be cw.
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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2012, 08:37:39 AM »
Here's one I like:

Skate backward on RBO
Jump up and rotate 180 degrees CCW
Land on facing forward on left toe pick and push forward onto RFI edge

What is it?

Bonus section:  name some of the popular variants for different positions of the skater in the air

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2012, 08:52:54 AM »
I know this one because I have a variant of it in my program, but I'll let someone else answer :)

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2012, 09:43:02 AM »
Here's one I like:

Skate backward on RBO
Jump up and rotate 180 degrees CCW
Land on facing forward on left toe pick and push forward onto RFI edge

What is it?

Bonus section:  name some of the popular variants for different positions of the skater in the air


Sounds like a jumped back 3 turn which I think is known as a falling leaf if you get the position right.

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2012, 09:57:01 AM »
Correct!  Falling leaf is what I was going for.  Anybody want to name the variants?

I learned the falling leaf as a pretty connector for doing with a series of waltz jumps.

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2012, 10:20:46 AM »
Correct!  Falling leaf is what I was going for.  Anybody want to name the variants?

I learned the falling leaf as a pretty connector for doing with a series of waltz jumps.

In my mind it should be called a half loop, given that a half flip and a half Lutz land on the toe pick forwards. However when I do it I'm pretty much open to forwards before I take off (but I bizarrely jump this the opposite way to my natural rotation).

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2012, 02:29:16 PM »
There's more than one variant?  I have the split falling leaf in my bronze program.. but depending on how tired I am at that point (it's at the end) it sometimes doesn't end up being very split-like though.

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2012, 02:36:02 PM »
The Falling Leaf jump variants are Split Falling Leaf and Stag Falling Leaf.

I've seen skaters attempt a "tucked" variation, but very few of them accomplish it.
(You take off, then bend both knees to "kick yourself in the butt.")  Getting to a safe landing position is difficult from that variation, but I'm sure an elite skater could pull it off.  These skaters aren't at that level.

A half-loop takes off from a BO edge and lands on the BI edge of the opposite foot.
It's considered a Loop variant, not a half-jump.
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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2012, 04:57:44 PM »

Skate forward on a RFI edge
Jump and rotate CCW
Land on a LBI edge

What is it?

Hint: takes off forward, lands backward

Just for fun, let's add one revolution in the air.  Anyone want to take a stab at it? ;)

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2012, 05:00:43 PM »
An inside axel with a one foot axel landing? :)

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2012, 05:47:34 PM »
Just for fun, let's add one revolution in the air.  Anyone want to take a stab at it? ;)

So one rev = you land on LFI (different foot) or RFI (same foot).  Change feet it's an inside half axel? Same foot it's like a jumped inside loop, but I have no idea? Maybe a toeless half flip?? (Like I said, no idea!! :D)

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2012, 07:48:27 PM »
** New Round! **

Skate forward on a RFI edge
Jump and rotate CCW
Land on a LBI edge

Hint: takes off forward, lands backward
Just for fun, let's add one revolution in the air.  Anyone want to take a stab at it? ;)

CCW, RFI entry, 1.5 revs, with a LBI landing? 

If it took off from a LFO edge and landed on the LBO edge, it would be a one-foot axel...
An inside axel would land on a RBO edge...

I'm stumped.  *goes to check kay's site*

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2012, 02:38:53 PM »
I feel pain just looking at that!!!  :o

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2012, 05:06:09 PM »
So one rev = you land on LFI (different foot) or RFI (same foot).  Change feet it's an inside half axel? Same foot it's like a jumped inside loop, but I have no idea? Maybe a toeless half flip?? (Like I said, no idea!! :D)

Yep, it would be an inside axel landed on the other foot.  For all listed jumps, current ISU rules allow the jump to be landed on either foot as long as it's fully rotated.  Since the inside axel is an unlisted jump, whether or not this would "count" could be argued either way.  It would look cool, though!

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2012, 07:20:25 PM »
Yep, it would be an inside axel landed on the other foot.  For all listed jumps, current ISU rules allow the jump to be landed on either foot as long as it's fully rotated.  Since the inside axel is an unlisted jump, whether or not this would "count" could be argued either way.  It would look cool, though!

I don't think it would be considered an axel variation - axel is 1.5 rev and the move as described is only one rev around (forward takeoff to forward landing)?  I absolutely agree it would look very cool indeed.  Bags not being the person who tries it  :D!

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2016, 04:30:27 PM »
A jump that turns CCW from LFO to LBI LFI is called a "jumped three" or "three jump" in the US
I haven't heard the term "one foot waltz jump" but it's an apt description.

Another reason I like this site so much. I wanted to know if this was really a "legitimate" move and what it is called so I searched for "lfo lbi jump" and presto, here I am.

I was messing around on the ice today doing bunny hops to warm up for waltz jumps when I decided to try a LFO-LBI jump with no toe assistance. I wanted to try some other type of edge jump (beyond waltz jumps) without a full rotation and wanted to land backwards to practice "sticking" my landing, hence the forward takeoff. I like the feel and think it will help with getting comfortable on my landings.

I noticed I was curving in like for a 3-turn and only got about 90 degrees rotation in the air. I then focused on doing a shallower entrance and got more rotation. I am off the ice for about 6 inches.

To the wise and experienced out there: Is there a reason I should not be doing this (i.e. setting up bad habits of some sort, etc) ?
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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2016, 05:31:12 PM »
Maybe you should post a video - there is something called a one-foot axel as well but honestly I can't remember if it starts on a FI and goes 1.5 times around and lands on a back outside or if it starts like an axel on a FO edge and lands on the same foot after 1.5 revolutions to a BI edge... oh, now I am confusing myself (and probably everybody else LOL)

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Re: Is This Something?
« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2016, 05:54:41 PM »
It is the latter.  The former is an inside axel.