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The Pro Shop / Re: New jacksons blade loose
« Last post by tstop4me on February 12, 2018, 02:09:49 PM »
Assuming the sharpening was done properly.  I've seen people sharpen with no blade jig.  If you're holding the boot and the blade's loose, it'll make one edge lower, or switch the edging, front-to-back.
I've never seen that.  Even with properly tightened screws, I don't see how anyone can get a decent sharpening by holding the boot and guiding the blade freehand against the wheel.  That's totally insane; they shouldn't be in business.
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The Pro Shop / Re: New jacksons blade loose
« Last post by tstop4me on February 12, 2018, 02:04:40 PM »
The original screws were temporary mountings from factory. The hockey shop did the first sharpening. At this time I  don't know any coaches/skaters.. as far as my experience...I am adult skater returning to the sport. I skated in my teens but was injured by another skater resulting in injury and never returned to the ice. I never thought I would be able to skate again but was pleasantly surprised when i did these 20 yrs later. Im Definitely a beginner but I do know that my initial issues were do to the blade issue. At this point it could be both blade issues and my lack of knowledge...but i feel pretty good about knowing what feels wrong to certain aspects. My initial issues were very clear to me that it was the blade.
Just to let you know how complicated this can get, here's a recent post from another skater with blade problems:

http://skatingforums.com/index.php?topic=7971.0

She first thought it was simply a matter of aligning the blades, but it turned out the blade was so poorly mounted it was bent, and the sharpening was messed up.  But both she and her coach first thought the blades were straight and the sharpening was OK.  You really need to know what to look for, and the proper tools as well.  If you can't do it yourself, then you'll have to travel to where there is a competent tech.  Note:  All it takes is one really bad sharpening to wreck a brand new set of blades for good.
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The Pro Shop / Re: New jacksons blade loose
« Last post by FigureSpins on February 12, 2018, 01:56:20 PM »
Assuming the sharpening was done properly.  I've seen people sharpen with no blade jig.  If you're holding the boot and the blade's loose, it'll make one edge lower, or switch the edging, front-to-back. 
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The Pro Shop / Re: New jacksons blade loose
« Last post by tstop4me on February 12, 2018, 01:52:50 PM »
Definitely contact Jackson and Kinzie's Closet to say the blade screws arrived loose/stripped, which is a manufacturing/distribution error.  If it led to the blade sharpening being done poorly, Jackson will blame the pro shop for not checking the screws first and the pro shop will blame Jackson for shipping a defective product. 
Loose mounting screws would not mess up the sharpening.  During sharpening, the blade is clamped onto a skate holder, and the tech moves the skate holder along a guide (bed, rail, or arm).
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The Pro Shop / Re: Dance Socks for Off-Ice Spin Practice
« Last post by FigureSpins on February 12, 2018, 12:57:02 PM »
I ordered a pair of the "carpet" socks and a four-pack of the "smooth floor" socks.  I can try out the extra smooth ones with a student or two or three.

There are some competing products on Amazon, but they were more expensive, so I figured I'd try these out.  BTW, if you order more than 24 or more pairs, there's a 15% discount - you have to contact the company for that information.

I'll post a review of TheDanceSocks after we give them a spin!
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The Pro Shop / Re: New jacksons blade loose
« Last post by FigureSpins on February 12, 2018, 11:04:40 AM »
Sorry this happened to you.  If the blade feels wrong, it probably is off - either in the alignment or the sharpening.  Kinzie's Closet is a reputable seller, so contact them immediately and describe the problem.  The problem with buying online (I know, you had no choice.) is that there's no "fitter" to check sizing and do quality control things like making sure screws are in tightly.  Online retailers simply pull a box from a shelf, (hopefully) make sure the right skates are inside and packed well, then box and ship.  That's why it's cheaper to buy online, which is great if you know what you're doing, not so great when you're relying on them for guidance.  I get it: you have no pro shop nearby.  It's very common.

Ask one of the figure skating coaches or a high-level skater/parent for advice on where to get skates or have blades sharpened.  Often, in places where there are no figure skating pro shops locally, a coach or parent steps up and becomes the de facto figure skating "Equipment Technician."  It's not advertised or promoted other than by word-of-mouth, so you have to ask around.  If you can get the skates fixed locally, Jackson or Kinzie's Closet could reimburse you for the service.

Hockey pro shops can be very helpful, if you talk to the right person.  Find out who the owner/manager is and schedule an appointment rather than just walking in.  (I realize you were desparate, no worries.  Been there, done that while traveling, but I know a little more about figure skating needs.)  The owner/manager has a vested interest in not ticking off the rink's clientele.  They're usually more experienced and knowledgeable than the high school hockey boys who disdain figure skating.

As for the sharpening, it's unlikely the hockey shop would have loosened the screws to sharpen, but it's possible.  However, you should check to see if the sharpening was done properly - make sure the chrome reveal line is fairly even all the way down the blade.  If the line tapers at the tail of the blade, the shop damaged the blade when sharpening.  If the rocker (curve behind the toe pick) is flat or has a dip, they damaged the blade.  Have the pro shop guy measure the blade's edge evenness - if the edges are uneven, they damaged the blade.  (The loose blade is a contributing factor in that case.)  You'll need to address any sharpening issue with the pro shop owner/manager, emphasizing that this was a brand-new blade.  They should make good by repairing/replacing the blade if they caused the damage.

Definitely contact Jackson and Kinzie's Closet to say the blade screws arrived loose/stripped, which is a manufacturing/distribution error.  If it led to the blade sharpening being done poorly, Jackson will blame the pro shop for not checking the screws first and the pro shop will blame Jackson for shipping a defective product.  Blame does no good - you paid for good skates and you should get good skates.  Take the high road and ask "What can we do that will make these skates work properly?"

Good luck!
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The Pro Shop / Re: New jacksons blade loose
« Last post by Jacquiejj on February 12, 2018, 10:42:22 AM »
The original screws were temporary mountings from factory. The hockey shop did the first sharpening. At this time I  don't know any coaches/skaters.. as far as my experience...I am adult skater returning to the sport. I skated in my teens but was injured by another skater resulting in injury and never returned to the ice. I never thought I would be able to skate again but was pleasantly surprised when i did these 20 yrs later. Im Definitely a beginner but I do know that my initial issues were do to the blade issue. At this point it could be both blade issues and my lack of knowledge...but i feel pretty good about knowing what feels wrong to certain aspects. My initial issues were very clear to me that it was the blade.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Dance Socks for Off-Ice Spin Practice
« Last post by lutefisk on February 12, 2018, 09:37:42 AM »
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The Pro Shop / Re: New jacksons blade loose
« Last post by tstop4me on February 12, 2018, 06:59:44 AM »
TStop4Me, since you are knowledgeable about designs using screws, could you guess proper technique for not stripping screws when mounting blades in a plastic composite sole such as  occur in Fusion? Or does it depend on the specific materials too much to guess?
Depends on the specific material.
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