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Spectator Skating Discussions / Re: Interesting take on the costume problem
« Last post by amy1984 on February 23, 2018, 01:31:30 PM »
I saw another interview with Brad Griffies (I think it was him and of course I can't find it now... it might have been Jan Longmire...) where he said basically that they all watch and pray nothing goes wrong.  With the way the ladies twist in spins and stuff apparently nipples slip out more than we'd think.  I'd never considered that.  Yikes!

I feel bad for Gabriella as I'm pretty sure when you break it down that costume mishap probably cost them a gold medal.  But at the same time... I agree with this article.  How was that clasp not triple checked and made with a zillion clasps and closures?
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Spectator Skating Discussions / Back-loading IJS Programs
« Last post by FigureSpins on February 23, 2018, 12:12:22 PM »
What would happen if they kept the current IJS 10% bonus for jumps in the second half of the program, but limited the count to a single jump element?  (Standalone or combination/sequence)
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: normal skating level for a teen?
« Last post by FigureSpins on February 23, 2018, 12:09:44 PM »
Just as an aside, the words "competitive figure skater" is a fire-starter.  Everyone who competes, even at the most-basic levels, considers themselves to be competitive athletes.  However, US Figure Skating divides skaters into "non-qualifying" and "qualifying" athletes.  They refer to the latter as "competitive figure skaters."  I'm not agreeing with that nomenclature but then again, I loved being an ISI Recreational skater, lol.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: normal skating level for a teen?
« Last post by FigureSpins on February 23, 2018, 12:07:21 PM »
^ What she said...honestly answer these questions and your eyes will be opened:

How many lessons does s/he take weekly?
Group or private lessons?
How many days a week does the skater practice outside of lessons?
How many total practice hours, each week?
Do they skate year-round or seasonally?
How carefully do they practice on the ice? 
Are they in off-ice programs, dance or gymnastics?
How much time do they devote to other sports or activities?
Do they have natural ability in athletics or is every skill hard-earned?
Have they had setbacks on- and/or off-ice?  (Injuries, life changes, plateaus, disappointments)

Those who want to achieve can be held back by lack of resources.  Those who live for hopes and dreams have to put in hard work.  Nothing comes easy, everyone is different.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: normal skating level for a teen?
« Last post by Jf12 on February 22, 2018, 05:31:21 PM »
Everyone progresses at a different rate. What level you compete at, if you are participating in US figure skating, depends on what tests you’ve passed.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: 2018 Summer Adult Skate Camps
« Last post by Jf12 on February 22, 2018, 05:29:33 PM »
It seems like it doesn’t overlap with the kids camp again this year.  I heard from someone that this was the case last year and a lot of ice and coaches that were normally there were unavailable.  Does anyone have an opinion on this?
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / normal skating level for a teen?
« Last post by ThinKaRma on February 22, 2018, 03:23:50 PM »
Hi.  Just wondering what would be the "normal" approximate level for a competitive 13 or 14 year old girl, who does singles and has been skating for 7 years? 
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Media Center / Re: The Quint
« Last post by Query on February 22, 2018, 12:42:45 AM »
Additional reasons why I think quints will eventually be possible:

I forgot to include advances in medicine:

1. Presumably the main limiting factor is the strength of the body - primarily bones, ligaments, and muscles.

2. Improvements are being made in athletic and kinesio tape taping techniques, which use external tape to reinforce internal body parts. That won't help the muscles - although elastic tape, such as across the front of the knee and the back of the ankle, might be used to store some energy for the beginning of the jump, and to absorb impact at the end.

3. On top of this, if I understand correctly, surgical repair techniques for fractured bones and torn muscles and ligaments are improving. In some cases, people claim that the repairs are stronger than the original undamaged tissue. We are a long ways from creating the "Bionic man" and the "Bionic women" - but perhaps we are at the point of being able to sufficiently reinforce such tissues that one could perhaps stop worrying as much about breaking or tearing anything. If not, we will get there. And again, you must eventually be able to increase elastic forces inside muscles to effectively store more energy in those muscles, that can be released when you contract those muscles.

4. I don't know if the G forces associated with the aerial spins would be great enough and long enough to cause unconsciousness - but the military folk worked out ways of partially solving that problem in fighter pilots long ago. First off, they can tense specific muscles. Second, they wear G-suits - which are more or less comparable to compression underwear - something that many athletes already use, for other athletic reasons. We can't wear anything as bulky or heavy as what pilots wear - but we probably don't need to, as I doubt the G forces are anywhere near as big.

5. In short, the problems associated with generating fast aerial spins for more difficult jumps is to some extent transition from being a pure physical training problem - which might or might not be sufficient - into an engineering problem, involving improved medical taping, surgery, and taping and surgical materials, which makes it inevitable that it WILL be solved.

In fact, these things will revolutionize all athletic activities, not just figure skating. It WILL happen.

6. You can say that sports organizations could try to prevent these improvements, for example, by outlawing unnecessary surgery. But if an athlete deliberately pushes their body until it breaks or tears, that surgery then becomes medically necessary.

7. Some people claim that transgender females (as defined by current IOC rules) may perform better than cisgender females in certain sports, possibly including figure skating. IF that is true, then transgender females may be able to perform more difficult jumps (including quads) than cisgender females have been able to do - another area of effective medical enhancement.

8. Likewise, it seems obvious that genetic engineering will eventually produce better athletes than currently exist.
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The Pro Shop / Re: What size blade for EDEA Ice Fly 260?
« Last post by tstop4me on February 21, 2018, 10:36:05 PM »
I have never heard that before.  It would vary based on the skate model because some have soles that extend past the upper, others are smaller than the upper.  How would they mount the blade under your foot properly?
I agree, that blade-sizing procedure sounds bizarre.  Also, different boots have different heel pitches:  for the same size foot, the projected length onto the sole varies with heel pitch.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Riedell Skates
« Last post by Slowpoke on February 21, 2018, 10:21:06 PM »
I have the Motion 225s and they are holding up very well, and are very comfortable.  I weigh about 175 and skate almost every day.
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