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Posted: 08-11-2010, 02:01 PM
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Ooo ok, I have never heard about the blood type diet. Honestly, I think that's kinda weird. But then again, anything can be turned into a diet these days, huh?
...now if only there was a chocolate diet... I kid, I kid.
I wouldn't kid, I bet there already is a chocolate diet. How healthy it is, is to be debated.
Personally I find that arming oneself with proper information about what the body needs from scientific sources (so it's been properly peer reviewed and not just any old thing that's been made up), helps people understand what a healthy diet should consist of (such as the food pyramids Sessy refers to).
But don't pay much attention to what the media tells you is the latest health food. One week drinking red wine is good for your health and the next week it isn't. The truth is probably somewhat in between the two extremes but neither makes for a particularly exciting headline.
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Posted: 08-11-2010, 02:41 PM
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I wouldn't kid, I bet there already is a chocolate diet. How healthy it is, is to be debated.
You're absolutely right, there is!
http://www.diet.com/g/chocolate-dietWell, chocolate beans are a plant so I'm certainly not surprised at their claims of lowering cholesterol, although don't translate that into a lower risk of heart problems just yet since chocolate can contain quite a bit of caffeine and raise bloodpressure after all. I think there's also a big difference between chocolate and chocolate. I'm myself a big fan of the 98% chocolate contents chocolate (you know, super super black chocolate) and a. it's almost impossible to over-endulge with it and b. I've not noticed any ill effects on my figure, unlike with normal chocolate. It is very much an acquired taste, however.
BTW, if you ever have a chance, try chocolate-coated coffee beans. Yummmm....
Another thing no one's mentioned yet btw, if you're on a vegetarian diet, low levels of creatine are likely to start causing problems after a while if doing intensive sports. Supplements will be required. According to the dude who owned the gym with his wife where I went to work out while I couldn't skate, it's actually a quite serious problem for vegetarians and vegans who are trying to get the most out of their body with sports. He and his wife were both vegetarians and he said there were about six different things of what they needed to take extra in supplement form because of that in order to provide their bodies with the nutrients for lots of sports. Unfortunately I only remembered creatine.
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Posted: 08-11-2010, 02:50 PM
I am a skater and have weighed anywhere from 155 (overweight) to 115 (when I was anorexic). I now weigh 140 (with a realistic, healthy goal of 135, which would keep my BMI at "normal" vs. "underweight").
What I eat:
Breakfast: 300 calories, plain fat-free yogurt with fresh fruit and a little granola.
Lunch: 300 calories, salad with "doctored" dressing (I take commercial dressings and lighten them up considerably with vinegar) and tofu, nuts, whatever I have to make it more interesting or, if I'm in a hurry, a Lean Cuisine or low sodium/low fat soup
Dinner: Whatever I want, but I try to portion control it to no more than 1,200 calories max.
I weigh everything on a diet scale and/or count calories. It's amazing how many calories the love of my life, cheese, has.
I also NEVER drink a beverage with any calories in it at all, except vino (my bad). I drink sparkling water, Vitamin Water Zero, etc. The only artificial sweetener I drink is Stevia. I don't snack in between meals, though I do occasionally cheat, but I try not to.
I do cardio, weights, yoga and skating, of course.
I think finding the hidden calories is the key for most people.
Another motivation is I like my skating dresses and want them to keep fitting!
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Posted: 08-11-2010, 02:57 PM
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BTW, if you ever have a chance, try chocolate-coated coffee beans. Yummmm....
Way ahead of you! I brought home dark chocolate covered espresso beans from Cafe San Eustacio in Rome, Italy this past June. There's still some in my fridge. They are TO DIE FOR.
They're really strong both in chocolate and in espresso bean, so about 3-4 and I'm set.
I am a firm believer that chocolate in moderation is good for the soul. My mom, back when I was in high school, every night would open a dark chocolate Hershey bar after dinner and give my sis and I 3 squares of the chocolate bar. It became a game to see how long we could make it last haha.
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Posted: 08-11-2010, 08:08 PM
I generally follow a near-vegetarian diet, but have found that I crave meat every three or four days. Other than that, I eat lots of veggies and get protein from beans, nuts, and cheese. I also try to avoid all processed whites--flour, rice, sugar, and pasta. I limit to one diet soda a day, and the rest water. Am I thin? No, I'm a little overweight, but that's because I'm fairly sedentary. Once I can skate twice a week again, I should lose some of the extra pounds.
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Posted: 08-13-2010, 12:42 AM
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No idea how many Calories I eat in a day; nor do I care.
I only care about eating Healthy to enable & empower the pleasures I love...
re Not enough protein? or healthy fat?: depends on a bazillion variables and Contexts,
including:
1. what is the person's Blood-type?
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2. Avoid pharmaceuticals?; & have enough Hydrochloric acid to digest proteins, and is gut Probiotically healthy?
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3. What do the Individual's LAB-tests (hematology mainly) show?
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4. As an iceskater, what is the person practicing? & what are their goals...
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5. What is their weight?, & their age (chrono., plus Mental).
Factors like these all come into play...
For yesterday, I forgot to post I had 2 (not one) Pb-sandwiches, & also 1 slice of white cheese:
Tho I never bother to "count", I did it for this response:
Proteins:
14 gms. = 1/2 cup Cottage cheese
07 gms. = 1 slice of cheese
18 gms. = 4 Tbsp. Skippy Pb, 9 gms. per 2 Tbsps.
12 gms. = 4 slices of Canadian-rye bread, 3 gms. each
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51 gms. protein; yup just as I thought: too much protein, again - Why?
The above factors suggest: with shy of 30 gms. protein daily I am at my best.
and re fat - Considering that for most (but the last 2 yrs.), I kept waist 23-4 inches;
while now an addtl. 3-4in. Fat-storage I am going to eliminate!!,
plus the fact that I Intake all necessary EFA's daily, I dare say I am also getting the fats I should have.
Thank you Stormy for your concern.
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You may care about eating "healthy," but part of a healthy meal plan IS dietary fat. Period. It's essential for your organs, for satiety, your hair, your nails, everything. Dietary fat does not equal body fat. A calorie is a calorie. If you consume more calories than your body needs, you will gain weight, even if you ate all of your calories in egg whites and cottage cheese and lettuce.
Under the guidance of a dietitian, I am on a specific meal plan for my health. Guess what? That meal plan includes ice cream and M&Ms and cookies as well as other foods.
A sample day:
Breakfast: 1 c. 2% Milk, 3/4 c. granola, 1/3 c. craisins
I don't actually eat a morning snack, but most people would
Lunch: Grilled cheese, 1 ounce of cheese with 2 slices of bread, possibly cooked in some sort of butter. I didn't prepare it, so I'm not exactly sure. 1/2 c. cottage cheese, 1/4 c. granola
PM Snack: 1/4 c. craisins, 1/2 c. cottage cheese, 1/4 c. granola
Dinner: Spinach salad:1 ounce of goat cheese, 2 tablespoons of regular dressing, 3 ounces of chicken, 2 ounces of spinach. Also, 3/4 c. milk and 1 small baked roll
Night snack: 1 serving reese's pieces (51, to be precise) and 1 c. soymilk
Okay that might have been a bad example because I had so much cottage cheese and granola. This was supposed to be my meal plan for the day, or at least something similar, but I'm having a hard time and didn't actually have breakfast.
Lunch and dinner both have a grain, a protein and a fat, all from different sources. My meal plan contains 2,400 calories, most of it in nutrient rich food, but I also have treats. This is considered 100% appropriate by an entire treatment team to maintain my weight and my health. Yes, there may be some obsession in measuring, but this is so I serve myself ENOUGH food.
The point of writing out a "sample" of what is considered an ideal day is to show that "junk" foods can be entirely acceptable. I know that I am younger than most (all?) of the posters here and that I have a relatively fast metabolism, but I wanted to show that a dietitian approved diet includes some junk food. It is certainly in moderation and the portions are controlled, but I daresay it's presence would be forbidden to those obsessed with eating "healthy."
Your body knows what it needs. It knows when it's hungry, when it's full, when it needs a little more food, when it doesn't want quite as much, and even what kind of foods it wants. You just have to listen and be mindful. Can I eat intuitively right now? Absolutely not. My body still thinks that an apple and a gardenburger pattie are sufficient. But unless you've completely ignored your body for ages, just listen to what IT wants, not what the next fad diet tells you it needs.
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Posted: 08-13-2010, 02:30 AM
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The point of writing out a "sample" of what is considered an ideal day is to show that "junk" foods can be entirely acceptable. I know that I am younger than most (all?) of the posters here and that I have a relatively fast metabolism, but I wanted to show that a dietitian approved diet includes some junk food. It is certainly in moderation and the portions are controlled, but I daresay it's presence would be forbidden to those obsessed with eating "healthy."
Your body knows what it needs. It knows when it's hungry, when it's full, when it needs a little more food, when it doesn't want quite as much, and even what kind of foods it wants. You just have to listen and be mindful. Can I eat intuitively right now? Absolutely not. My body still thinks that an apple and a gardenburger pattie are sufficient. But unless you've completely ignored your body for ages, just listen to what IT wants, not what the next fad diet tells you it needs.
That's very wise advice. A little of what you fancy seems to be the message which comes from the centenarians when asked what their secret to long life is. Which can equally be translated to everything in moderation.
I think the hard part for most peopl these days is to listen to their body. Also in eating "junk" food it comes highly sweetened and our bodies have been hard programmed to gorge on high calorie foods in case of an upcoming famine. Unfortunately, we don't live in the stone age and famines aren't that common in the western world hence people struggling with excess weight.
I have heard that a lot of people mistake thirst for hunger and so eat when they really just needed a glass of water. For those who have problems with being overweight and who constantly feel hungry, it might be worth having a glass of water when they feel hungry. If they were just thirsty then the feeling will go away, if they're really hungry then eat something in another hour when you've given the body a chance to realise it's had some fluid.
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Posted: 08-13-2010, 09:47 AM
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Skating is a good way to give a new fitness urge momentum. Even if you can only skate for 30 minutes out of 120 because of lunch schedules, do it - it will give you incentive to try/stay in the sport.
You'll also find yourself fitting more fitness into your lifestyle, which will help speed good health and habits.
When I used to skate during my lunch, I often got stuck at the elevator talking to someone from the office about work. Then, I'd end up not going to the rink because I worried that I wouldn't make it there and back in my limited time. I literally talked myself out it going to the rink.
So, I started taking the stairs down, which turned out to be a good warmup for skating. Then I started taking the elevator halfway up and walking the rest of the way. I graduated to taking the stairs both ways and then added a fitness center workout, etc. etc.
Skating can make fitness efforts snowball.
I also found that skating was a great motivational tool for my weight-loss efforts (over 100lbs lost in a 3 year period). Helped with the achy joints, and overall health as well.
I don't go crazy about working out or what I eat-I just try to do the right thing by eating well-balanced nutrition (including my junk), work out several times per week, and try to find a balance with everything else in my life.
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Posted: 08-17-2010, 04:51 PM
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I used figure skating to lose weight.
I was hospitalized for 6 weeks and have been in treatment for anorexia since May 3rd.
I'm glad you are getting help to remedy your dis-ordered eating habits.
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davincisoprano1:
Every meal needs to have a starch, a protein AND a fat. 250 calories in english muffin and egg white does not make a good breakfast. Dietary fat provide satiety.
I pretended fat wasn't an important part of a diet. I ended up with really low vitamin D levels and I wasn't giving my body any way to ABSORB the vitamins, which also screws with calcium absorption, and can damage bones. Eating fat doesn't make you fat. A calorie is a calorie. But NOT eating it can lead to over eating.
You're young. So am I, I'm only 20.
It doesn't sound like you know quite enough about exercise and nutrition to try to lose weight on your own in a healthy way. I'd seriously consider forking up the money to see a dietitian.
Sorry. I'll get off my soapbox now. It's just that I AM a skater with an eating disorder, and it came damn close to KILLING me just over 3 months ago.
While you're kind to you show concern for another person, not every person is in dire straights, nor close to death.
Not only that, most Dieticians work from a model/belief-system of "Human-body = another machine";
which many researchers, MD's, ND's, & other aware individuals know fails too often.
There is much, MUCH more to vibrant health than merely "a protein, a fat, & a starch". - Other factors
which affect whether 'calories in' become fat - include, but are not limited to:
what the food is
stomach acid levels
pepcin levels
bile
various enzymes
particular gut flora
the hormone 'insulin'
serum Chromium, Manganese, Boron, Copper, Vanadium, Iodine, Iodide, Selenium, Molybdenum, Cobalt
serum estrogens
testosterone
Triiodothyronine
Somatostatin
somatotropin
Neuropeptide Y
Cholecystokinin
Secretin
Glucagon
various Glucocorticoids
epinephrine
norepinephrine
Leptin
and so on; and any number of these can even pass through totally undigested.
Dieticians, by & large are not aware of many of these factors,
so at best all they can do, is look at "Statistic charts", & plug you into them.
That works, somewhat for people content as a vague statistic.
The rest of us TEST where we, as an Individual are, and
make changes accordingly, to get our desired outcomes... We find it works better this way.
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Posted: 08-17-2010, 05:31 PM
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There's indications that it's actually worse than normal soda,
since the sugar-replacements can dissolve a part of the layer of the inside of the bladder, leading to increased bladder inflammations.
Diet-sodas, are bad for you for the same reason Jello sweetened with Aspartame is bad for you.
Aspartame harms you in several ways, including: as a potent Neuro-toxin
Also, it coats your bladder so bacteria enjoy a steady Sugar-feast there, & ever multiplying...
people continuing ABO-use, only achieves abo-resistance
Obviously, you want to stop drinking such junk; & use D-mannose instead. D-mannose is a simple sugar, that the bacteria love more,
so they cling to it instead, & get flushed out of your body.
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Posted: 08-18-2010, 11:26 AM
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Diet-sodas, are bad for you for the same reason Jello sweetened with Aspartame is bad for you.
Aspartame harms you in several ways, including: as a potent Neuro-toxin
Also, it coats your bladder so bacteria enjoy a steady Sugar-feast there, & ever multiplying...
people continuing ABO-use, only achieves abo-resistance
Obviously, you want to stop drinking such junk; & use D-mannose instead. D-mannose is a simple sugar, that the bacteria love more,
so they cling to it instead, & get flushed out of your body.
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The research I read focused on several artificial sweeteners, not only aspartame, and found other artificial sweeteners also harmful. Anyhow, the quickest way to find it would probably be by googling something like "interstitial cystitis artificial sweeteners" or something.
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Posted: 08-18-2010, 06:13 PM
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Diet-sodas, are bad for you for the same reason Jello sweetened with Aspartame is bad for you.
Aspartame harms you in several ways, including: as a potent Neuro-toxin
Also, it coats your bladder so bacteria enjoy a steady Sugar-feast there, & ever multiplying...
people continuing ABO-use, only achieves abo-resistance
Obviously, you want to stop drinking such junk; & use D-mannose instead. D-mannose is a simple sugar, that the bacteria love more,
so they cling to it instead, & get flushed out of your body.
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Also, recent studies have shown that artificial sweeteners may actually end up causing us to gain weight:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/96849.php JimStanmore
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Posted: 08-18-2010, 09:42 PM
In the spirit of the OP's question, here is the USFSA information:
http://www.usfsa.org/Athletes.asp?id=346After a bunch of research other places I started basing my eating habits (at least I TRY to) on this information. I figured that if it is good enough to take people to the Olympics, it's good enough for me, LOL.
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Posted: 08-19-2010, 03:16 AM
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Also, recent studies have shown that artificial sweeteners may actually end up causing us to gain weight:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/96849.php Again, can't speak for anyone else but since I switched from artificial sweeteners in my tea to sugar, and to fizzy drinks (I drink them rarely though) with sugar, I didn't notice any change in weight what so ever. This does seem to support the idea that artificial sweeteners don't help you lose weight.
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Posted: 08-19-2010, 08:48 AM
To maintain a healthy weight, you really need to combine a healthy eating plan with exercise. Exercise alone won't usually help much for a normal human being (as opposed to a bony marathoner or something!).
I've struggled with my weight on and off since I finished college in the '80's. I've followed Weight Watchers successfully for the last 10 years (to the point where people compliment me on my "great metabolism," which drives me nuts!) but it's not for everyone. Someone suggested seeing a nutritionist, which I think would be a great idea--and then you have to apply a healthy dose of willpower, which is the hard part for me! (Although I keep pictures around from when I weighed 140, which at 5'1 made me a roly-poly ball, and that's a great incentive not to have the extra piece of chocolate...)