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The Pro Shop / Re: Heel lifting in Ice Flies
« Last post by Christy on January 22, 2018, 07:41:03 PM »
In looking over the mounting jig, the double-helix screws, and special installation procedure, it makes me wonder about how well the blades were mounted. This IS a special case and requires a different approach.

Christy, who mounted the blades?

The same skate tech who has mounted all of my blades, including the ones on my old Ice Flies, so they are very experienced with Edea skates.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Heel lifting in Ice Flies
« Last post by Bill_S on January 22, 2018, 07:19:46 PM »
One thing that I found in their instructions...

"Both drilling and fixing of the screws need to be perpendicular to the sole.
If the holes are drilled at an angle or the screws tightened at an angle the blade will not be properly mounted."


I wonder...?
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The Pro Shop / Re: Heel lifting in Ice Flies
« Last post by Bill_S on January 22, 2018, 07:13:06 PM »
In looking over the mounting jig, the double-helix screws, and special installation procedure, it makes me wonder about how well the blades were mounted. This IS a special case and requires a different approach.

Christy, who mounted the blades?
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The Pro Shop / Re: Heel lifting in Ice Flies
« Last post by FigureSpins on January 22, 2018, 07:02:03 PM »
Edea "buries" some of the sole inside the leather upper, so the outer sole is very thin.  That's why they look so unusual on the ice - the upper part extends below the normal footbed.  It is still very thin, compared to other brands of boots, hence their claims of "flexibility."
 
Edea's doesn't use the same mounting as regular boots and blades - it's a special process/screws.  Interesting, but takes some training to learn how to use their specialty mounting jig.

http://ice.edeaskates.com/en/tech-info/blade-assembly/fitting-blades-to-edea-boots/
http://ice.edeaskates.com/en/tech-info/blade-assembly/equipment-required-for-blade-mounting/

Edea had a cross-section model on display at a Trade Show not too long ago.  Not sure if it was just that dealer or all dealers.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Heel lifting in Ice Flies
« Last post by Christy on January 22, 2018, 07:00:10 PM »
The soles are thinner than any I've seen on other skates! Edea provides special screws that have to be used to attach the blades.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Heel lifting in Ice Flies
« Last post by Bill_S on January 22, 2018, 05:59:55 PM »
There MUST be more than meets the eye. Perhaps more is inside the boot and hidden because of the construction.

If not, it's not thick enough for self-tapping screws to work.

I'd love to get hold of an old pair and saw them in half to see the cross section.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Heel lifting in Ice Flies
« Last post by AgnesNitt on January 22, 2018, 05:56:32 PM »
Curious.

The sole looks thin.


NO KIDDING! I've had fashion shoes with stiffer soles than that. Also, the  edges of the soles don't look sealed. I've looked at Ice Flies catalog images and that appears to be how they're made.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Heel lifting in Ice Flies
« Last post by Bill_S on January 22, 2018, 05:47:05 PM »
Curious.

I've had toe gaps when mounting PIC frames (which are dead straight from toe to heel), but slowly tightening the mounting screws over a couple of months pulled the gap at the toes into contact. Don't try tightening all at once or you will strip the threads.

However that might not help with surface ups-and-downs (undulations) like yours appears to have.

The sole looks thin. If it is sufficiently thick, a little smoothing of the mounting surface on a belt sander might help. That can be tricky, but some pro shops can do it.

With the current gaps, you're going to collect water that you can't dry with a towel and get problems that result from that.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Heel lifting in Ice Flies
« Last post by Christy on January 22, 2018, 05:27:52 PM »
Here are some pictures of the blade gap. The blade looks flat, and the sole looks uneven.

     
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The Pro Shop / Re: Heel lifting in Ice Flies
« Last post by nicklaszlo on January 22, 2018, 05:20:02 PM »
The pictures would be great. 

For the first issue, I have two thoughts.  Either the blade mount is incorrect, or the boot itself is twisted.  The blade mount is easy to fix, but if the boot is defective then you need it replaced.  Do not ignore the pain.

In my experience a temporary mount should flatten the boot against the blade. 
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