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The Pro Shop / Re: Jackson Debut Boot
« Last post by Christy on August 19, 2017, 09:01:43 PM »
I popped into a skate shop today and they had a pair on display. Maybe it's because I currently have the Ice Fly but I thought they were really heavy.  Chatting to the staff they said they'd had them a few weeks and so far the feedback hadn't been good, especially about the microfiber feel.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Jackson Debut Boot
« Last post by tothepointe on August 19, 2017, 01:18:31 PM »
It is my understanding that it is the same as the premier which is the same as the elite. They advertise them as elite features at a lower price. The Premiere and the Debut both have that same A/B and C/D sizing which is different from the Elite. I would have tried the Premieres but they would be too stiff for me.

It's definitely NOT the same last as the Competitors/Freestyle as I tried both side by side. The Debut has a much snugger heel and a better wrap around the instep and ankle.

I can't imagine they'd create a special last just for the Debut that is not the same as the Elite/Premiere or the Competitor/Freestyle. From a manufacturing standpoint, it doesn't make sense. Takes too long to develop a last that works. It is easy enough for them to grade it into other sizes though.

 I CAN see them having a last for the Elite/Premiere/Debut and then another for the lower-priced boot and blade sets. Also, they would want to have some kind of fit consistency across the line.

I pick them up today so I'll try to do a side by side comparison with the Freestyles that I have had (though they are 1/2 size bigger)

I will say this these boot manufacturers do make it difficult to understand what skate comes with what. If you just releasing a new boot you'd think they'd want to advertise a bit more.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Jackson Debut Boot
« Last post by tstop4me on August 19, 2017, 05:42:32 AM »
They've only been out 2 months they are built around the new elite last so semi customs might be available.
I just want to confirm this.  The Jackson website states that the Premiere is built on the Elite last; but there is no such statement for the Debut.  Did your boots come with a brochure that says it is?  The stock Elite last is split width, with the heel one width narrower than the ball; for some people with slightly narrow heels, this is sufficient to avoid semi-customs.
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Events for Skaters / Re: Lake Placid Adult Camps
« Last post by Pandora on August 19, 2017, 05:12:33 AM »
Thanks! I did try emailing Mr. Wylie at the adress on the site, but he has not responded yet. You are right. He will probably be booked.  :( But it will be awesome just taking his group lessons! Wow!!!  :) I don't do dance, just freestyle. I do MITF when my coach forces me.  88) I'm a recreational skater (don't test or compete).

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Events for Skaters / Re: Lake Placid Adult Camps
« Last post by sk8lady on August 18, 2017, 07:45:52 PM »
Email Paul ahead if time if you want a lesson--he's only there on Thursday this year so he will book up early.
And a warning: a lot of folks like Marc Fenczak, but he does like to talk. A LOT. Joel Dear also will be teaching dance. I"m just sayin.'
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The Pro Shop / Re: Jackson Debut Boot
« Last post by tothepointe on August 18, 2017, 04:12:21 PM »
Hmm those Debuts look like really nice boots, but it seems they come only in 2 widths ("A-B" and "C-D"), which probably means they can't be semi-customed. (I need A or AA heel and E ball.)

They've only been out 2 months they are built around the new elite last so semi customs might be available. I got mine heat molded today and waiting for them to be mounted etc. The fit in the heel is snugger than the Competitor/Freestyle and they wrap around the instep much better. It's a really good improvement for those of us not quite ready for the higher end boots but have feet with "needs". I didn't think I'd look at Jackson again because their boots always look so clunky but these have a nice aesthetic to them once on the foot. The padding is really nice like a sneaker almost.

My fitter did say that Jackson is coming out with them next year with a thermo-plastic sole. I'm not sure if meant the lower level models that have plastic soles will now have this style boot or if the debut itself will have an Edea like sole. Considering one of Jackson's selling point is their soles aren't plastic I'm going to assume the lower end sets might be getting a makeover.

I'll update again once I've had some ice time with them. My current boot is a Reidell 910 Flair but I opted for the regular cut not the low cut this time.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Jackson Debut Boot
« Last post by davincisop on August 18, 2017, 03:46:32 PM »
I thought about you in late April - were your ears burning?  I used the new Microsoft font, Gabriola, for a exhibition program.  It drove me crazy - loved the font, but couldn't figure out how to get the swirls and swishes to behave.  The font shows different flourishes based on the actual letters and it doesn't kern nicely.  Two of skaters have a two-word last name (no hyphen.)  The mom proofread the document and said "You left out the space!"  I hadn't - for one skater, it looked fine, for the other, there was no gap.  Putting an extra space resolved it, but it was so frustrating!  In the titles, it added spaces I didn't want!  If it hadn't been the middle of the night, I would have asked for your help.

Ah I just saw this, Figurespins! That's crazy haha. I hate when fonts don't work like you want them to. I know often a lot of fonts these days have opentype alternates (if it's a .otf, that's the big clue) and you can enable them in a menu bar, and there are sometimes options for alternate glyphs. Ideally the font is programmed that at the end of a word it subs the glyph that would allow it to look "finished" rather than one that would be a continuance, but that's always a toss up. :)
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The Pro Shop / Re: knee highs
« Last post by Ethereal Ice on August 17, 2017, 05:33:18 PM »
I just saw this thread. I buy trouser socks to skate in and I have seen cream and white pairs offered from time to time. I have bought mine off of eBay, Amazon, and in Target and Walmart. I prefer them to be pretty thick, but they can really vary in thickness from very thin like nylon knee highs to as thick as my husband's hockey socks. I prefer buying them in person because then I can feel the thickness, but anyway, it seems like that might be an option. Plus they are usually really reasonably priced. Mine have lasted ages.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Jackson Debut Boot
« Last post by tstop4me on August 17, 2017, 08:06:08 AM »
Hmm those Debuts look like really nice boots, but it seems they come only in 2 widths ("A-B" and "C-D"), which probably means they can't be semi-customed. (I need A or AA heel and E ball.)
You shouldn't make that assumption.  The two listed widths are for stock boots.  Contact Jackson to see whether they will provide a semi-custom split width in the model you're interested in.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Jackson Debut Boot
« Last post by aussieskater on August 17, 2017, 07:21:53 AM »
Hmm those Debuts look like really nice boots, but it seems they come only in 2 widths ("A-B" and "C-D"), which probably means they can't be semi-customed. (I need A or AA heel and E ball.)
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