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Offline tfjjmc

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Skate Problems
« on: December 04, 2017, 08:09:34 PM »
My daughter is a first year skater.  She currently is ISI level Alpha and skates on a beginning Synchro team.  She is wearing a Reidell Diamond and she is having pain issues across the top of her toes.  I took her to the pro shop and they measured her and said the fit was still fine and recommended some adjustments to the tongue and the way we laced them.  When we were at the shop she said it was better but now that she is back on the ice in them she is complaining of pain again.  I have a few questions.

1.  Is this the right skate for this level?  She is really struggling with getting crossovers could the skate be part of the problem?
2.  Has anyone else had this issue?  Is there a way to fix it without replacing the skates (only 3 months old}?
3.  Any recommendations on what skate would work for her?  She is a medium width but it seems like she needs more height in the toe box.


Offline skatemom189

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Re: Skate Problems
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 12:12:59 AM »
My daughter sometimes has that problem.  Ask the shop to bump up the toe box to give her some more room.  You may have to do that every few months as her foot grows.  It's easy for a pro shop to do and only takes about ten minutes.

If it's the right level depends on how big she is.  If she's a teen its probably fine.  If she's five it may be a bit much, but probably only a bit.  Next time you may try other brands.  Jackson, Edea, and Risport may have higher toe boxes.

If she's having trouble with crossovers have her practice one foot glides on a circle, both feet clockwise and counter clockwise.  Strengthening her edge control will help her get crossovers.

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Re: Skate Problems
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 10:58:32 PM »
Stretching the toe box, on top, does indeed sound like a great idea!

Another possibility is to remove the insoles, and cut and shape your own, out of something like foam, thinner than the original liners, especially near the toe. The easy way to make it stay in the boot is to make the periphery the same shape, by tracing the old insole on top of the new one. Then you cut down the 3D shape to make everything perfect. I currently use foam from a cheap camping sleeping pad, though it squishes down and need to be replaced every few months. A simpler but less effective technique is to cut the new insole out of thin material, like cardboard, or a cheap dollar store insole, then add adhesive foam or tape underneath to modify the 3D shape until the foot is comfortable.

Is she still growing? The "good news" is that if so the current boots will be fairly temporary. :) One big growth spurt, and she needs new boots anyway, almost overnight.

Riedell is known for somewhat small toe boxes in general. Harlick and Jackson are known for larger toe boxes - though I may be thinking wide (my personal need) rather than high. If possible, it is a good idea to try out fit in a store before buying skates - which for many people means driving to the best pro shop in within a days' drive. Ask around your rink for where the good skaters and coaches go. A really good fitter would KNOW whether a given boot brand and model could fit her foot snugly yet comfortably, unless/until she grows.


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Re: Skate Problems
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 12:00:49 AM »
It takes time to get crossovers. 

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Re: Skate Problems
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 02:29:41 PM »
The majority of the people I notice having trouble learning crossovers, or making them smooth and strong, do two things:

1. They try to do them while the skating foot (the one that is underneath) is on an INSIDE (instead of OUTSIDE edge). Sometimes they start on an outside edge, but shift to an inside edge, maybe because they are afraid of falling over to the outside. And/or, even more awkwardly, they try to lean their body to the inside instead of the outside.

2. They keep the skating leg straight, and don't bend it.

Both of these issues mean that the crossing foot and leg (the one that is on top) can't reach far enough to touch the ice, unless they topple over onto it.

I think any decent coach has seen these obvious issues so often that they know how to recognize them and help.

I love to blame skating problems on the equipment. However, while a blade mounted at a tilt might skid when you go onto either an inside or an outside edge, I don't think you can normally blame bad crossovers on the skates.  :)