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Offline nicklaszlo

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Grade of execution for a two-footed loop jump in combination
« on: March 02, 2017, 04:33:00 AM »
I can't find any penalty in the book for a loop jump that takes off from two feet in single skating.  (There is one for pairs.)  Lots of skaters do this and it seems to be okay with the judges.  Is it okay to take off from two feet if the loop jump is the second jump in a combination?  Or would that be a landing on two feet, which gets a -3 grade of execution reduction?

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Re: Grade of execution for a two-footed loop jump in combination
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2017, 08:41:14 AM »
Yah this is super common for a loop jump, legs crossed and the free leg blade touching the ice before take off.  It's actually how lots of people are taught to do the loop and you won't see a deduction for it unless someone really screws up and puts a ton of weight on the free foot.  How I mentioned it is how every coach I've ever had has taught a loop from a backwards approach.  If I'm doing one off a three turn you'd better bet I get 'don't drag that leg!' but apparently it's acceptable from the backwards approach without a three turn.

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Re: Grade of execution for a two-footed loop jump in combination
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2017, 08:00:02 PM »
In my experience, the perfect takeoff position for a loop jump is with the free foot resting gently on the ice, heel of free foot in front of the toe of the takeoff foot.  This forces you to bend your takeoff knee, keep the free hip closed and get your chest over knee over toe before takeoff.  The free foot on the ice does not help you in terms of takeoff power because it's too far away and not under you.  If you shift your weight and end up taking off from the "free foot" instead of the foot you're supposed to take off from, I would imagine they'd call it as a salchow instead of a loop (LBI takeoff instead of RBO takeoff).

However, whenever you put your free foot down *between* jumps, it is considered a two-footing of the first jump (or a stroke between jumps, which also isn't allowed) and it negates any jump that comes after that.

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Re: Grade of execution for a two-footed loop jump in combination
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2017, 10:12:14 PM »
it negates any jump that comes after that.

Doubletoe, what do you mean?  Grade of execution applies to an entire combination.