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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: [Mysteries of the Rink] What is this ?
« Last post by AgnesNitt on March 18, 2017, 07:06:24 AM »
Confirming Nicklazlo's comment above, I got an email from a coach I know who said:

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In ice dance terminology they are labeled as XF (cross front) and are found in the Viennese waltz ladies steps 5 & 6. The dance was actually created to the Blue Danube piece of music, and if you start the dance at beginning of the melody, the XF transition matches the music beautifully!!
The rock-over sensation before putting the new foot down is the fun of that step.

Cross-rolls (XR) with the new foot behind each time are found in the Argentine tango for the lady.

Video! https://youtu.be/14onAB6sAM8?t=39

So we finally have an answer and confirmation!!

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Events for Skaters / Re: Lake Placid Adult Camps
« Last post by rd350 on March 18, 2017, 02:16:52 AM »
I may go for the weekend one.  Need to rent a house because I am not going to mountains and leaving my dog in the city!  I may be looking for some roomies who love dogs.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: Smart practice vs. frequent ice time
« Last post by nicklaszlo on March 18, 2017, 12:10:52 AM »
You should be asking yourself:  are you enjoying the ice time?  Then adjust accordingly.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: [Mysteries of the Rink] What is this ?
« Last post by nicklaszlo on March 18, 2017, 12:07:07 AM »
This fits the definition of a cross step forward (XF) in the USFS rulebook.  However, it is only an example.

Agnes's step as best I can tell is

RBO XF-LBO XF-RBO ...

Quickstep steps 8 and 9 are

RBI XF-LBO

which is not the same.

I'll try Agnes's step next time I practice.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: [Mysteries of the Rink] What is this ?
« Last post by icedancer on March 17, 2017, 10:15:45 PM »
I think there is a part of the Gold Dance called the Quickstep where you do this - cross in front while going backwards - it's not a roll though, just an edge (and very hard IMHO) -
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: [Mysteries of the Rink] What is this ?
« Last post by CrossStroke on March 17, 2017, 08:03:26 PM »
It's basically alternating back crossovers.  You do a right-over-left crossover, change edge, then do a left-over-right crossover, repeat.

I don't think that's what AgnesNitt is talking about.
Ironically, in the last 2 or 3 weeks my coach had me do that move - back outside to back outside edges crossing in front.  He had me do them both in isolation and several combinations - for example, LBO choctaw, RFI choctaw, on LBO cross front to RBO, into RBO choctaw, LFI choctaw, on RBO cross front to LBO, rinse, repeat...  No idea if it has a name, though.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: [Mysteries of the Rink] What is this ?
« Last post by Doubletoe on March 17, 2017, 07:03:20 PM »
It's basically alternating back crossovers.  You do a right-over-left crossover, change edge, then do a left-over-right crossover, repeat.  I think these are called back cross rolls (not cross strokes or cross cuts, where the new foot steps down behind the skating foot instead of crossing over).
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: [Mysteries of the Rink] What is this ?
« Last post by Bill_S on March 17, 2017, 04:02:19 PM »
I've seen what Agnes is talking about. There's a Russian coach in Columbus that teaches that element. One of our young skaters who sometimes takes lessons from her will practice it.

Haven't heard anyone call it by name though.
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: [Mysteries of the Rink] What is this ?
« Last post by FigureSpins on March 17, 2017, 03:44:17 PM »
I can't even imagine this - got a video?
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Sitting on the Boards Rink Side / Re: [Mysteries of the Rink] What is this ?
« Last post by AgnesNitt on March 17, 2017, 03:12:44 PM »
By cross-roll, do you mean the crossing foot comes down on an outside edge and rolls to an inside edge?  Did the skater do one, several with the same foot, or alternating-changing direction?

Comes down on the outside edge alternating side to side
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