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The Pro Shop / Re: Coronation ace vs Gold star blades
« Last post by lyssykw on Today at 12:12:48 AM »
Wow, thanks for the detailed post tstop4me  :)

Yes I do have a coach and he has recommended Ultima Freestyles. I hadn't really considered anything other than MK or JW as I have no experience with the newer brands and I don't know many people who wear them. My coach is Canadian so maybe slightly biased to Jackson Ultima  ;)
 It seems to me that the Freestyle has a similar profile to MK Phantom, which I had briefly as a child, though I don't remember what they felt like. The toepick looks huge on them though!
 The reason that I initially thought of MK Gold Star is because they are marketed as 'the king of spin' and I thought that sounded like a good idea for me, as spins are definitely an area that I would like to improve.

I'm not really sure anymore! The ultimas are all so much cheaper than the other high level models, like $300 cheaper! So maybe I will end up getting them.  :-\
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The Pro Shop / Re: Question on pain along inner side of foot
« Last post by tstop4me on December 10, 2017, 09:29:40 PM »
And this is the right boot. Hard to capture in a picture, but the shadow where the first eyelet starts is the dent that has started forming.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lt7CjX4ckjEhYJKHZwBX7HF_kbeXXklR/view?usp=sharing
That dent is the start of a crease.  In most recent boot designs at the intermediate or advanced level, there typically is now a flex notch cut in that position to relieve the stress and prevent the formation of such a dent (while allowing for easier ankle bend).  I'm surprised your Harlicks don't have flex notches.  When you order new boots in the future, you should specify flex notches.  If you find out that your current pair is still otherwise serviceable, you should ask your skate tech whether he can cut and stitch flex notches (at a reasonable price, of course).
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Wow. It took me so much longer to transition from MK Dance to Matrix Dance.

Were you fairly young? I've noticed that many young people transition much more quickly than older adults, to many sorts of new equipment.

Or maybe I am just that much less athletic and adaptable than you.

Definitely not young  ;)  I'm not sure if the two blades are close in profile, but it just clicked. I had a similar experience moving from Matrix Legacy to Matrix Elite, yet could not get used to a shorter Elite blade (1/4 inch) so sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't/
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The Pro Shop / Re: Question on pain along inner side of foot
« Last post by icedancer on December 10, 2017, 06:22:36 PM »
I see!  Well I think that is a fairly stable boot so it must be something about the photograph - maybe with all of the laces undone or something -

It will be interesting to see what the solution is!
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The Pro Shop / Re: CW crossovers and foot sliding
« Last post by Leif on December 10, 2017, 03:28:20 PM »
As I clearly said in my previous post, the sideways sliding is gone, what remains now is to improve my technique. However, as I've also said it's very hard to get a decent sharpening where I live. That means that the only real solution is to buy a machine. A traditional machine is out as I do not have a heated room to store one. They are big, heavy and messy. So an automated machine is the only option. I know they work well, and they are consistent.

As for your constant attempts to push me away from the forum, I've found posts from others very informative and helpful. Hockey skate wearers can learn a lot from figure skaters, even though there are difference.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Question on pain along inner side of foot
« Last post by DressmakingMomma on December 10, 2017, 02:19:33 PM »
They are competitor level Harlicks, with two layer construction. I don't like to go too stiff because she has really sensitive feet, although we will probably go up one level next time. I'm going to call Harlick tomorrow and see if they can rebuild the support in these before we order new boots. We also order the lower cut BB backstay, otherwise they cut into her calves.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Question on pain along inner side of foot
« Last post by icedancer on December 10, 2017, 02:09:20 PM »
What make of boot is that?  It doesn't look very stable.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Question on pain along inner side of foot
« Last post by DressmakingMomma on December 10, 2017, 01:10:27 PM »
Thanks for the input, Query!

I was thinking the boots were probably broken down, they feel soft. This is a first for her, she has always outgrown boots before breaking them down so I wasn't sure. At least I feel like we got our money's worth out of them this time.

She is skating between 3-5 hours a week now, but she does about 5 hours of training over the summer every day so they had a lot of wear and tear for those months. She is a strong, muscular girl too, but the outsides don't tend to get beat up because she pulls her pants down over her boots. They are a year old in January, so that would make sense. She has her singles, no axel, but she has a lot of power to her skating and her edges are very strong - those are her skating strengths.

Also, I looked up the insoles Leif mentioned and they look like something she should definitely try. I feel like the cork wedges are an okay solution, but they stop at a funky spot in her arch and even though we do lots of adjusting they are never quite right.
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The Pro Shop / Re: Question on pain along inner side of foot
« Last post by Query on December 10, 2017, 12:28:00 PM »
I'm not an expert on anyone's feet but my own. :) And I don't tend to pronate.

However, I notice that both her insoles and her boots are well worn. If the cork wedges were made a while ago, they may have compressed and no longer be fully functional, as is likely true of her insoles. Replace them?

I know this is not what you would like to hear, because boots are expensive, but to me at least, those boots are more than just broken in - they are broken down. I don't see how they could be providing much support. Notice also the inwards curvature below the ankle, which shows the boot has been collapsing there, when she puts much weight on it.

But experimentation is always a good approach to take to solve problems, in my opinion. I like to think through possible solutions, and try them.
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The Pro Shop / Re: CW crossovers and foot sliding
« Last post by Query on December 10, 2017, 12:16:12 PM »
Before getting too far into sharpening your own blades, maybe you should get a coach or at least a good skater to evaluate whether skating technique, rather than sharpening technique, might be the root cause?

I would stay away from the automatic sharpening machines for figure skating blades, for several reasons. But even for hockey blades, they probably don't give you as much freedom to experiment as hand-guided tools and machines give you. (Not surprising: freedom to experiment is also freedom to mess up.) If you decide to sharpen yourself, in addition to checking relative edge heights, I strongly suggest you trace or photocopy your blade NOW, so you can match the rocker profile to what it is now, rather than gradually and accidentally changing it with time, as I initially did. I don't know if those automated sharpening machines let you fix rocker profiles, but at least you would know when it is time to take the blades to an expert.

1/2" ROH is the most common NHL-plyayer-preferred ROH, according to one study, so it can't be TOO bad. But 7/16" is somewhat more common for figure skating, perhaps 3/8" for thin-line Dance blades, but bigger ROH are more common for school figures (to improve glide).

I suggested before that this may not be the best forum to get well informed hockey equipment discussions, because hockey isn't the forum's focus. Several hockey forums have discussed DIY sharpening at length.

I've met many hockey players who sharpen their own blades using hand tools - though that is most common for hockey goalies, because they have special needs that are not met by many hockey skate techs. Even more hockey players straighten their own knocked down edges, and perhaps do touch-up sharpening, but occasionally take their blades to a good skate tech, to get the rocker profile restored to what they need. So, if hockey is your interest, try asking around the good hockey players, hockey coaches, and especially goalies that you know, and it is possible you will find a few who do it, and could give you pointers.

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