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Are you able to compare them to the Chloe Noels? I've got the Chloes with the side stripe, and I like the thickness of them, but am liking some of the designs of the NY2 ones.
I can't remember the CN side stripe fabric, but it is slightly thinner than the CN spiral pants. I do like this ny2 fabric.
I got the plain black ones from their ebay shop, $45. I think if they hold up well they are well worth it. The one thing I really didn't like with my Chloe's when they fit was that I had to wear black underpants with them otherwise you could see my underwear (I refuse to say panties... it makes me cringe.).
Well, now I get to see how well they handle returns.
Do you mean if you wore white, you could see the white or see the outline? (I don't like the word "panties," either. It sounds naughty somehow.)