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Title: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: AgnesNitt on January 14, 2013, 04:54:10 PM
After my knees went kablooey, I put on 5 lb in six weeks. I'm now religiously back on Weight Watchers, tracking every point, no candy(it's a trigger food), blah blah blah.  I've started a private blog called "Big Fat Skater" to motivate myself. Can I reach my goal weight? Will it help me get back on ice? Can I track my knee improvement w/ PT and weight loss?

Anyway, really frustrated w/ being unable to skate more than 1/2 hour at a time, and it's motivating the heck out of me to stick to it.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Willowway on January 14, 2013, 06:00:37 PM
Good for you!!

If you ever decide to share your blog with other skaters who are not judgemental because they're fighting the same fight, count me in. I am really not good about losing weight (though so very effective at gaining it) but I do try to remember when I go for the carbs (my trigger) that hauling less weight around the ice makes everything easier and more possible. Oh, such a battle!
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: platyhiker on January 14, 2013, 08:15:06 PM
Count me in for the working to lose some weight club.  My goal (starting two weeks ago) is to lose at least half a pound a week (and hopefully more some weeks) through the end of June and then to keep it off for the remainder of the year.  (I'll still need more weight at that point, but I'm trying to keep my goal modest, and succeed at it, rather than being ambitious, failing and then eating too much to console myself.)  With my weight up, I definitely notice that my feet are more prone to having plantar faciitis type issues.  (The various connective tissues get sore, and need regular, vigorous massage to feel decent.)

Posting here seems like a good way to keep myself motivated to stick with healthy, moderate eating.  Hopefully we can encourage each other to keep working toward our goals.   :D

I hope your knees get healthy fast, and that you make good progress towards a healthy weight.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Willowway on January 14, 2013, 08:34:55 PM
I'm trying to keep my goal modest, and succeed at it, rather than being ambitious, failing and then eating too much to console myself

Super smart! I take it as good advice - thank you.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: SynchKat on January 15, 2013, 11:47:29 AM
I should really be doing the same but I am having trouble motivating myself to get started.  Maybe posting here will give me that push I need. 
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: TreSk8sAZ on January 15, 2013, 01:43:34 PM
I've lost some, but have much more to lose. Unfortuantely I've plateaued so I'm getting frustrated.  I hear you on the knee problems and it really does help to lose a bit. The arthritis and stress seems to be less, and I have less swelling in them overall. But, like I said,  I still have quite a ways to go. Good luck to everyone!
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Willowway on January 15, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
Just got back from lunchtime on the ice and yes, I used this group to heighten my awareness of what I was choosing to eat when I got home - didn't do the "I exercised so I deserve...[insert not terrible but not great choice]."  Good to know that others are fighting the same fight. For the record I had a piece of turkey breast which I roasted last night and some cottage cheese (I'm not noble, I actually like it). So far, so good...for today.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: hopskipjump on January 15, 2013, 02:43:14 PM
WW is a great program.  I'm sure you will be feeling better quickly.  Are you going to meetings in person or doing it online?

An aside regarding cottage cheese - i love it but always have a flashback to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io9jondGL40  It's Lola - bugs bunny's gf - she orders a cheese burger and gets cottage cheese.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: AgnesNitt on January 15, 2013, 06:28:46 PM
I've got 3 points left for today! So a small pita toasted with cheese as an evening snack.

I'm getting good at walking past the chocolate jar at work. Mostly, it's easy because there's nothing in it by Christmas candy from the Dollar Store. That's not 'chocolate'. That's flavored fat and sugar.

After all this sticking on program perfectly, I'll probably only lose an ounce!
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: PinkLaces on January 15, 2013, 11:43:33 PM
You stole the name of my would be blog.  I am big - 5'9" and fat - too embarassed to post my weight, but lets just say I have significant amount.  I need to get on some sort of eating plan.  I did WW many years ago.  The first time I lost 35 pounds and got to my goal weight.  The second time I wasn't so successful.  I wasn't so good about the point counting. 
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: alainajane on January 16, 2013, 09:01:23 PM
I started weight watchers in September.  It was what actually lead me to start skating.  I was looking for a winter activity that did not involve walking on a treadmill, staring at a wall.  Now I can say I'm fairly obsessed with skating- it will not remain a winter-only activity.  I've lost about 17 lbs of the 35 that I needed to lose, so far.  Best of luck with your weight loss.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Willowway on January 16, 2013, 09:56:33 PM
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I've lost about 17 lbs of the 35 that I needed to lose, so far.
  Congratulations - that's substantial progress. Admirable.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: AgnesNitt on January 17, 2013, 07:11:25 PM
Thanks for the support. I'm almost finished with my first week.

Does anyone weigh in every day? My doctor recommended it, but no matter what,it seems I only lose weight on those days when I DON'T weigh in.

The Heisenberg WEight loss principle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics))--a fat cell cannot be observed and lost at the same time.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Willowway on January 17, 2013, 07:22:21 PM
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a fat cell cannot be observed and lost at the same time
  Love it!
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: TreSk8sAZ on January 17, 2013, 09:10:12 PM

Does anyone weigh in every day? My doctor recommended it, but no matter what,it seems I only lose weight on those days when I DON'T weigh in.


I do weigh in every day, but I have to be very careful by doing so. There are natural fluctuations in water and things that can make you go slightly up and down. If I focus too much on the number every day (even if we are talking ounces in change), I can actually sabatoge myself. So if I feel myself getting upset or depressed about the number, I have to not do so for a couple of days.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: platyhiker on January 17, 2013, 09:36:20 PM
I weigh in every day - first thing in the morning.  There is variability from day to day based on water consumption and how fast or slow my digestive track is moving, so I consider the past three days in my mind to determine whether I am on track with making progress.

I do find it helpful to make a point of staying well hydrated.  Years ago, I read that many Americans are under-hydrated and often mistake the body's craving for water as hunger pang.  For me, drinking extra water helps reduce the between meals munchie cravings.  Plus, hydration helps the joints stay lubricated and a host of other good things for the body.   :D
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: jjane45 on January 17, 2013, 10:16:32 PM
If I weigh in everyday, it's a good sign that I've been watching my weight by actively working out and/or avoiding junk food.

Alas, I haven't dared to weigh in for a while...
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: fsk8r on January 18, 2013, 03:51:13 AM
Just remember that roughly one pint of water weighs one pound, if you're doing daily weigh ins.
While weighing daily can be helpful, I would compare numbers on a weekly basis to see what the overall trend is doing. Or else spreadsheet up the numbers so you can see if the slope is down or up. Hopefully seeing a downward trend will provide more motivation.

Good luck to everyone. While I probably should lose some weight, I'm not inclined to do anything too drastic, so I'm just trying to cut down on the little extras in my diet and being aware of what I'm eating.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: AgnesNitt on January 19, 2013, 05:45:09 PM
Thanks for all the support everyone!

Down 3.6!

Can't feel the difference in my knee of course, early days yet.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: iomoon on January 21, 2013, 01:35:34 PM
Don't worry about it. There is one skater who is bigger than many at this rink, but she's also one of the fastest. XD We care more about her doubles than how she looks.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: SynchKat on January 29, 2013, 11:09:29 AM
Great job Agnes! 

I really have to get my butt in gear.  I was using the packing of and unpacking of a house as my extra exercise, man that is a good workout.  But I don't have that anymore. 

And talking of larger skaters, I skate on an adult synchro team and some teams have very large women.  Often those women are the best skaters on the team.  I marvel at the fact they are out there because I know when I was bigger before my initial weight loss it was so hard.  I commend them for doing it. 
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: LT on January 31, 2013, 05:06:20 AM
Congrats on the progress! I'm hoping to use skating to help me kick start some weightless. Ever since I picked up a second FT job I've been gaining weight (no time to exercise + eating bc I'm tired = a bad combination!).

The only time I ever get to myself is when I'm at the rink for DD's skating, so I thought I should make the most of it and get out there myself.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: LindsayH on February 06, 2013, 12:03:38 AM
I lost weight two years ago with Weight Watchers. Not coincidentally, that's when I got really into skating.I reached my goal and am now a lifetime member of WW. I weigh in every month. Without that accountability I know I would have gained it back.

Best of luck to you!
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Doubletoe on February 15, 2013, 06:30:02 PM
For those who are skating as part of a weight loss regimen, I think it's worthwhile to take your waist and hip measurements on a regular basis, not just weigh yourself on a scale.  Skating builds your glutes and quads, which are the biggest muscles in your body (and weigh much more than fat).  You may be losing fat and inches even if you aren't losing weight. :)
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: JSM on February 15, 2013, 06:36:29 PM
I hope so double toe.  I've actually GAINED weight recently, and I hope it's because I'm finally building muscle in my hips (which have been non-existent until now).

Otherwise my measurements have stayed pretty much even, and my diet is the same as it always is.  Still, it's depressing to step on a scale and see a higher number when I've been so careful eating!

Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: AgnesNitt on February 27, 2013, 04:48:41 PM
I'd kill for a cookie.  :-X
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Doubletoe on March 02, 2013, 11:43:27 PM
I hope so double toe.  I've actually GAINED weight recently, and I hope it's because I'm finally building muscle in my hips (which have been non-existent until now).

Otherwise my measurements have stayed pretty much even, and my diet is the same as it always is.  Still, it's depressing to step on a scale and see a higher number when I've been so careful eating!

If your measurements have stayed the same but you've gained weight, it's time for a happy dance!!!!  This means you have built lean muscle mass, which not only gives your body a better shape, but is also guaranteed to burn the fat you have left much faster!  Each muscle cell burns 5x more calories than a fat cell, so building your body's big muscles (glutes, quads, etc) will help you burn more fat even when you aren't exercising! :D
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: FigureSpins on April 10, 2013, 08:30:15 PM
I've been doing pretty well at planning meals and snacks.  Banana and chocolate milk after skating or working out is perfect if I actually remember to bring it with me.  If not, the voices in my head start up as soon as I put the key in the ignition..."let's stop and get a shrimp,egg roll..." "Yeah, and maybe some boneless spare ribs..." "Or we can stop at the greasy burger joint..." "If I go to a supermarket, I'll buy junk food..."  "What about a Snickers - they have peanuts.  Peanuts are nutritious...""Have to go straight home...have to go straight home..."

When they voices start debating which Chinese restaurant has the best shrimp egg rolls, I kick myself mentally and I reach for the granola bar hidden under the seat.  It worked tonight, but boy is it hard to resist temptation.  I rewarded myself by pricing an alteration to my skating jacket.  The sleeves have always been long, but now it looks sloppy because the jacket's become a little baggy.  I'm down 20 lbs.; only 80 to go!
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: 4711 on April 10, 2013, 09:36:31 PM
I've been doing pretty well at planning meals and snacks.  Banana and chocolate milk after skating or working out is perfect if I actually remember to bring it with me.  If not, the voices in my head start up as soon as I put the key in the ignition..."let's stop and get a shrimp,egg roll..." "Yeah, and maybe some boneless spare ribs..." "Or we can stop at the greasy burger joint..." "If I go to a supermarket, I'll buy junk food..."  "What about a Snickers - they have peanuts.  Peanuts are nutritious...""Have to go straight home...have to go straight home..."

When they voices start debating which Chinese restaurant has the best shrimp egg rolls, I kick myself mentally and I reach for the granola bar hidden under the seat.  It worked tonight, but boy is it hard to resist temptation.  I rewarded myself by pricing an alteration to my skating jacket.  The sleeves have always been long, but now it looks sloppy because the jacket's become a little baggy.  I'm down 20 lbs.; only 80 to go!

I do admire you.
I am not sure I would have the self control.

matter of fact I think I don't. I just scavenged my desk for the last of the jelly beans I dropped a few days ago (and those were not good ones either, they tasted like scented candles! And no, I do not eat candles! ;))

But sometimes I wonder if we do not put too much emphasis on the numbers on the scale (as somebody mentioned: muscle weighs more than fat and actually requires energy to function, even in rest) and dress sizes than the important goal: actual gain in fitness and a sustainable lifestyle vs diets we want to break.

I have to admit, I am far from achieving the lifestyle stage. I think I got a box of lettuce and a bag of sugar peas rotting in my fridge as we speak....

BTW: you can make healthier home cooked varieties of most of your favorite foods that probably taste much better than bought, too: my husband makes a killer shrimp egg roll. Remember: fat is not all bad! A bit of fat in your diet keeps you full longer, helping you avoid cravings that wreck your program!
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: FigureSpins on April 10, 2013, 09:42:05 PM
Recipe, please.  My sister's great at making Chinese food at home, but she really works at it and has a pantry like Warehouse 13 with specialty foods from every culture, lol.  My BIL was assigned to the Chinatown police precinct for years, so they developed an appetite for Chinese food and the vendors (who appreciated the burly cops presence) gave them lots of info on ingredients and cooking techniques.

In my case, the scale numbers are important.  I am quite short and I miss being able to skate freely without carrying the equivalent of another person.  Even if I don't make it to my original skating weight, that's okay.  I'll still be healthier than I am now.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: 4711 on April 10, 2013, 11:52:13 PM
I will ask him! ^_^

They include a lot of cabbage.

Health and fitness is what counts in the end!
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: 4711 on April 12, 2013, 03:43:38 PM
Ok, I asked.
The recipe is really simple:
Take a bag of coleslaw cabbage, shredded, that also contains carrots. 'parboil' them (I think he means poaching though ;)) then add a bag of shrimp. I think he used the small precooked ones, and they were chopped up some. let them warm up. The drain and rinse all of that under cold water. Season with salt and pepper and some soy sauce, wrap in premade wonton/eggroll wrappers, fry.
You can always play with the filling a little, add other things, leave something out.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: ONskater74 on April 12, 2013, 06:53:48 PM
Wow, you ladies really have to work at the whole weightloss/diet thing!  It must really suck to be eating the right stuff and still gain weight. I just eat like sardines and mixed beans out of the can with triscuits... or hamd and cheese sandwiches with pickles and beer. Breakfast is 2 scrambled eggs and 2-3 pieces of bread with butter, peanut butter and honey or marmalade. Of course 2 cups of coffee a day, Lunch is often 2 chicken salad wraps a raisin bran muffin and a Hot Chocolate from Timmies..."$6.19 I'll see you at the window". I guess I eat crappy, and if I want pie or cookies I just buy it and eat it. I'm 6 ft and have been about 150 lbs since I was 18, been 145 the last 6 months or so. Seem to be losing the thin layer of fat on my lower back or something? All my 32" trousers are too loose. But quads, glutes and the rest of my legs seem to be going the right direction.
I wonder if guy diets work for girls? I lived for a few years on pretty much peanut butter sandwiches and coffee/beer.... I guess eating for me is a real bore. So I just look at labels and buy the stuff with the most protein and the least preservatives, that you can eat right out of the can :o :)
I'm 38 and ain't dead yet, and in fact feel better than ever, younger, more flexible, fitter, etc.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: 4711 on April 12, 2013, 06:58:31 PM
Wow, you ladies really have to work at the whole weightloss/diet thing!  It must really suck to be eating the right stuff and still gain weight. I just eat like sardines and mixed beans out of the can with triscuits... or hamd and cheese sandwiches with pickles and beer. Breakfast is 2 scrambled eggs and 2-3 pieces of bread with butter, peanut butter and honey or marmalade. Of course 2 cups of coffee a day, Lunch is often 2 chicken salad wraps a raisin bran muffin and a Hot Chocolate from Timmies..."$6.19 I'll see you at the window". I guess I eat crappy, and if I want pie or cookies I just buy it and eat it. I'm 6 ft and have been about 150 lbs since I was 18, been 145 the last 6 months or so. Seem to be losing the thin layer of fat on my lower back or something? All my 32" trousers are too loose. But quads, glutes and the rest of my legs seem to be going the right direction.
I wonder if guy diets work for girls? I lived for a few years on pretty much peanut butter sandwiches and coffee/beer.... I guess eating for me is a real bore. So I just look at labels and buy the stuff with the most protein and the least preservatives, that you can eat right out of the can :o :)
I'm 38 and ain't dead yet, and in fact feel better than ever, younger, more flexible, fitter, etc.

damn, you are about 10 years too old!  ;) (hides passport)

I don't know, I don't think guy diets work for gals, to tell you the truth.
But I am game for a BP sammich and coffee...I prefer something more savory with my beer though.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: jjane45 on April 13, 2013, 12:12:35 AM
Just because your body is not complaining yet does not mean that specific diet is the best for your health.

Speaking of diet, I now make veggie soup regularly. It's easy to prepare and fulfilling enough to replace a meal here and there, although I am not losing weight at all lol. It also gave me a chance to try out vegetables that I've never heard of, some I fell in love with (yuca root), some I'll not buy again (leek, rutabaga, or parsnip). I think the last batch had sweet potato, carrot, yuca root, rutabaga, potato, ginger, garlic, kale, bittermelon, onion, celery, tomato, in that order. Not too many friends showed interest in my soup though, lol.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: sampaguita on April 13, 2013, 05:28:38 AM
I'm not overweight by BMI standards, but I do have this layer of belly fat that I want to eliminate. I think I eat pretty healthy, not anorexic nor depriving myself of anything. I rarely eat sweets, and my sugar intake is mainly fruit-based. Sometimes I have jam, but that's pretty much it. I've trained my body to eat what it needs to eat. Sometimes I feel hungry and I eat a lot, sometimes I don't feel like eating. I just listen to my body, since it doesn't really ask for anything "bad" (well, sometimes I get this craving for milk tea or fruit shakes! but that's not too bad). On a somewhat unrelated note, my main problem right now is restraining myself to buy what I call "luxury" drinks -- when I do the math, I can use the same amount of money to pay for other more important things like skating.  ;D

I've been told at the gym that I really need to do cardio since I'm 25% body fat. The trainer told me I should try to do 45 minutes of cardio on the treadmill every other day, but that's something I haven't done because I just don't want to do it. I can handle 2 hours of resistance training, but cardio is just hard -- both on my endurance and my joints. It just never felt right.

Speaking of cardio, is there an exercise that I can do at home that is easier on the joints than running or walking?
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: 4711 on April 13, 2013, 06:39:50 AM
I hard treadmills are notoriously hard on the joints. Try the bike or go swimming - even though it uses different muscles than skating.

Or speed skating ;)
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: jjane45 on April 13, 2013, 08:56:27 AM
...wrap in premade wonton/eggroll wrappers, fry.

I was recently introduced to rice paper and it's remarkably easy to handle: dip in cold water for 10 seconds and let stand for 20 seconds or until soft.

Now it becomes Vietnamese spring roll :)
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: sampaguita on April 18, 2013, 01:45:44 AM
I hard treadmills are notoriously hard on the joints. Try the bike or go swimming - even though it uses different muscles than skating.

Or speed skating ;)

Ah, glad to know it's not just me, it's the treadmill, lol!

Swimming is out of the question because I can't swim, haha! But we have a machine at home that is similar to a bike so maybe I can use that. Thanks!
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Kitten23 on May 29, 2013, 11:56:22 AM
Give me a Spin Class and I'm in heaven, personally.

I was on WW; couldn't relate to anyone in my meeting and then had school and couldn't make ANY of the meetings.  Tried online, but it just didn't work for me...   :-\  What to do???  What to do??
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Landing~Lutzes on May 29, 2013, 01:30:45 PM
I hope so double toe.  I've actually GAINED weight recently, and I hope it's because I'm finally building muscle in my hips (which have been non-existent until now).

Otherwise my measurements have stayed pretty much even, and my diet is the same as it always is.  Still, it's depressing to step on a scale and see a higher number when I've been so careful eating!

Don't be duscouraged! Muscle weighs more than fat, and also burns more calories than fat! The number on the scale can be so deceiving. Have you ever tried checking your body fat percentage instead of weight? This can be a more accurate way to asses your weight..... You may be surprised to find that the number on the scale can go up while your measurements and body fat percentage go down! :-) as someone who used to weigh myself daily, I now very rarely weigh myself and instead focus on my body fat percentage.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: supra on May 29, 2013, 02:10:58 PM
My sister does the myfitnesspal thing, and I started doing it too. It sucks for girls. They can only eat 1200 cals a day without working out (on a 1000 deficit) and I can eat 1800 on the same deficit, and most days I end up eating 3000ish on a deficit. My bodyfat is in a medically healthy range (probably 13-15%?) but I still don't look like an Abercrombie model yet. Also if I drop to the 170s from low 180s I might be able to grab a basketball rim, which would be cool at 5'9.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Purple Sparkly on May 30, 2013, 09:45:07 AM
Whenever I want to reach for a snack when I'm not really hungry, I remind myself that I have never accidentally eaten anything.  Everything I eat is my choice, so I will choose not to eat that snack right now.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: supra on May 30, 2013, 11:55:27 AM
Whenever I want to reach for a snack when I'm not really hungry, I remind myself that I have never accidentally eaten anything.  Everything I eat is my choice, so I will choose not to eat that snack right now.

My problem is I sorta got out of the habit of snacking. I either make a giant plate of hot food or just don't eat. It can be bad sometimes, as calorically I won't be even unless I'm actually counting calories, because one day, say, I'll be out or whatever, and have only eaten breakfast, and then I'll have like a 2000 calorie deficit that day. Then next day, it'll be a day I'm doing nothing and have all the time in the world to cook, then 2000 calorie surplus. That type of thing isn't good for your metabolism. For a girl with a lower metabolic rate, though, I guess the "never snack ever" strategy would probably be good. Personally I wish I had things like Cliff bars or whatnot to get some quick calories on the go without being a total idiot about it.

Also, you gotta think about what calories are more "worth it." http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m81z666gfN1qbk3ilo1_500.jpg Like that ramen there (from the Asian market, not my picture, though) is probably about 300-400 calories. Meanwhile a Snickers bar is 300 calories, or a 20oz soda is 300 calories.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Landing~Lutzes on May 30, 2013, 12:29:32 PM

Speaking of cardio, is there an exercise that I can do at home that is easier on the joints than running or walking?

Have you ever thought of jump roping? If you do it correctly and focus on a light, springy jump, it's not as hard on your joints. I'm a ballet dancer, and my personal trainer hates the fact that I run, as it is notoriously bad for ballerinas! So she got me started on a jump roping routine and Iam working on 5 minutes straight, daily. Right now I can do about 1 minute straight and then a few second break where I just walk and catch my breat. May be something to try? I'm sure it would help with skating jumps, too.

Also, I think skating is a great form of cardio cross training! Power stroking around the rink is excellent cardio!
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: supra on May 30, 2013, 02:32:09 PM
Buy or make a slideboard. It's got a direct correlation to the skating movement, and it's as easy on the joints as skating stroking is, which is to say pretty easy.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Kitten23 on May 30, 2013, 03:58:03 PM
Buy or make a slideboard. It's got a direct correlation to the skating movement, and it's as easy on the joints as skating stroking is, which is to say pretty easy.

I'm angry at myself for not taking my old slideboard with me when I moved (I forgot it).  Have you looked at how much those things cost now?? :o  I think I brought mine for $30.00.  Have you made a slideboard?  Is it hard?  Do I need a lot of tools?  I live in an apartment and can't make a lot of noise, especially on Friday nights/Saturday morning-afternoons.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: rachelplotkin on May 30, 2013, 04:36:34 PM
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Buy or make a slideboard. It's got a direct correlation to the skating movement, and it's as easy on the joints as skating stroking is, which is to say pretty easy.

My PT says these are not a good idea because, unlike skating, your lateral motion is abruptly halted by the edges of the board.  Apparently the sudden stopping motion is bad for knees.  Your PT may have a different opinion.  I've never used one so have no real life experience with it.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: supra on May 30, 2013, 08:14:25 PM
My PT says these are not a good idea because, unlike skating, your lateral motion is abruptly halted by the edges of the board.  Apparently the sudden stopping motion is bad for knees.  Your PT may have a different opinion.  I've never used one so have no real life experience with it.

I don't have a PT. So, maybe I'm wrong about the joint thing. I just really liked the slideboard when I first started out. One thing I'd do to slow things down was hold dumbells in my hand while I was on it, so once things started getting too quick, the dumbells would slow it down and make things harder for you. You can also use a longer board and increase distance to decrease your feet slamming into the end. Also, the board I used was a Reebok one, iirc, and it was ramped up to the stopper, it didn't just stop totally at 90 degrees.

As far as making one, a guy on youtube said his was easy to make. He got a piece of "hard board" from Lowes for like $6, and it's smooth. I have some scrap linoleum I was planning to use to make mine, but shortly after I got the linoleum, I pretty much got bored/tired of the slideboard and just concentrated on weights instead. The only issue with the hardboard idea is it's not easy to store. Hard board is like, the compressed cardboard type stuff you can use to put up as a wall. Like the same material as like a peg board, but smooth. I think ideally, a slideboard would be made of I think polyurethane, but PU is pretty expensive to buy as sheets. One slideboard that used to be at my gym that got stolen by the hockey specific people who train there was made of plywood, and then the plastic part was only about a millimeter thick. It was also adjustable out to like 8 or more feet long or something like that.

http://www.goaliestore.com/board/doctor-ice/95699-just-built-goalie-slide-board.html
Here's some plans similar to what I saw on the youtube video.

Basically, you can slide on anything as long as it's not rough. My gym's hard wood floors in the aerobic studio probably slid just as well as the slideboard did.

OH! One problem for slideboards I had was the Reebok one, though fairly portable, because it rolled and unrolled, it wouldn't stick too well to the floor. To the rubber floor in the weight room I usually didn't have to barricade it too much, but at 180-195lbs when I used it, it wouldn't stick to a wood floor at all, I'd have to stack like 2 45lb plates at the end with yoga mat sticker things down the length of everything, it was a pain to set up. Something to keep in mind if you decide to go try to find a piece of linoleum or whatever and do it at home. Also, if you don't have slideboard specific boots, get your most slippery socks. Athletic socks aren't slippery. I wore dress socks.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Vicki7 on June 05, 2013, 09:03:15 AM
I do Slimming World, so a totally different plan, but I'm finding that my skating stamina is improving as I'm now carrying 16lbs less :)

Now, to stop accepting when coach offers me chocolate haha
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: 4711 on June 09, 2013, 12:35:31 AM
I do Slimming World, so a totally different plan, but I'm finding that my skating stamina is improving as I'm now carrying 16lbs less :)

Now, to stop accepting when coach offers me chocolate haha
Giving p chocolate? Never!
(actually, I am more of a ham and bacon gal...but some days you gotta have chocolate)
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: Meli on August 04, 2013, 10:54:17 PM
What do you do to combat the post-skate munchies?  After 2 hours on the ice this afternoon, I was ready to chow down!  Not exactly helping the diet situation...
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: FigureSpins on August 04, 2013, 11:14:00 PM
Low fat chocolate milk and a banana, or my new food trend is flax seed meal mixed into choc. Milk or  yogurt.  Lots of protein with carbs and fiber.  I like the texture - the flax develops a gel coating and the seeds pop when you chew.  Sort of like tapioca or barley.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: 4711 on August 05, 2013, 10:25:34 AM
What do you do to combat the post-skate munchies?  After 2 hours on the ice this afternoon, I was ready to chow down!  Not exactly helping the diet situation...

schedule a snack for that time. After two hours of anything I'd be hungry, let alone after physical activity!
I find it difficult to locate snacks that are not sweet. Currently my cravings are satisfied with an apple or a banana.
But you could have a granola bar or a protein one...or a shake of some sort.

I am still trying to put my son and myself on a schedule. In two weeks school starts back, and he is currently gone all day for band camp, cramping our carefree summer lifestyle a bit.  ;)
I need to figure out how to put snacks in the daily activities without blowing the caloric intake. It does not help that the school is peanut free...that takess even trailmix out of the running!  88)

ETA:
even most granola bars have peanuts in them, even if they are sold as something else...back to the drawing board for me...
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: SynchKat on August 18, 2013, 11:52:47 PM
I keep jumping off the dieting and fitness bandwagon.  I am bound and determined to stick with it.

Now that the skating season is starting p I will be skating more and with some new possibilities for skating endeavours I will have more motivation for being in better shape and losing weight.  Skating dresses are unforgiving.  :)

Some good tips and motivation here.  Especially for the snacking after skating.  I am a monster when it comes to food after skating.  After skating drinks,will definitely have to be dropped that is for sure. 

Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: TreSk8sAZ on August 19, 2013, 12:54:01 PM
My newest savior for before and after skating calorie watching is my brand new blender. I have started making fruit smoothies and other drinks that can replace meals. They have enough protein and a combo of slow/quick energy that I can have half before I skate, then half after I skate and I actually feel full. Sometimes if I'm simply not that hungry but need something I can throw something together as well. Because I know exactly what is going in, I can really control the ratios and make sure it's not just a sugar bomb. But I have to plan my pre-skating/post-skating meals on the weekend so I don't just grab whatever is handy.

Definitely fell off the bandwagon for a bit. Had a major attack from my autoimmune disorder and got depressed (it's a side effect, plus the attack just gets to me after awhile) so lost all motivation. Not quite back to where I was before, but slowly getting closer.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: SynchKat on August 20, 2013, 05:27:44 PM
Hope you are feeling better TreSk8sAZ.  It is no fun when your plans are sidetracked by medical issues.

I have been good lately, exercising everyday and eating well.  Yesterday though I didn't eat enough through the day and ended up feeling pretty crappy after picking up the boy from art camp so I had a couple granola bars and that helped. 

Went skating, even though I have a cold and can barely breathe and worked on a couple of dances and some footwork sequences.  I had a pint and a half of light beer after skating.  The social crowd was there last night, it was fun and I figured I had saved up enough calories during the day and from skating that I could imbibe.  I feel like I am seeing and getting results.  such a motivation when you feel that.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: AgnesNitt on October 05, 2013, 08:26:07 PM
Well, back on weight watchers after several months off. Fortunately, despite 6 weeks of lying around with shingles, I only put on 3 pounds.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: dlbritton on October 11, 2013, 03:54:43 PM
For those who are skating as part of a weight loss regimen, I think it's worthwhile to take your waist and hip measurements on a regular basis, not just weigh yourself on a scale.  Skating builds your glutes and quads, which are the biggest muscles in your body (and weigh much more than fat).  You may be losing fat and inches even if you aren't losing weight. :)

I realize I am quoting a rather old post, but I just spotted this thread. During ski season when I am on the snow 16-20 hours a week I usually maintain my weight but lose at least 2 inches and sometimes 4 inches from my waist size. Now that I have found skating I hope to keep the inches off during the off-winter months.

As an aside, does anyone remember the old WW "fat and fiber" plan? My wife said only a guy could come up with my interpretation of the plan: a bag of pretzels and a 6 pack of beer were 0 points. The meeting leader used that example for several years in discussing why that particular plan was dropped.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: AgnesNitt on October 11, 2013, 05:15:58 PM


As an aside, does anyone remember the old WW "fat and fiber" plan? My wife said only a guy could come up with my interpretation of the plan: a bag of pretzels and a 6 pack of beer were 0 points. The meeting leader used that example for several years in discussing why that particular plan was dropped.

I was in WW during the fat and fiber plan. It was impossible for me to stay with. It was just too complicated. The Points plan works (if you stay on it) and is easy to live with. My quick calculation is that if something is not fried, or heavy on fats, or sugars, a point is about 40 calories. Sometimes when I'm on the road and can't find all the details about a food, I can find the calorie count. I divide by 40 and add 2 - 3 points if fried or fatty and 2 points if candy. Not perfect, but it's close. Also, if I can't figure out what something is, I estimate what it is and double it. Sadly, the doubled amount is almost always closer than my first estimate.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: accordion on October 12, 2013, 02:39:56 AM
I'm using MyFitnessPal too. It helps me track my exercise, what I eat and whether or not I have "spare" calories. I also like that I can set the calories so that I lose a small amount, and that is achievable.

I'm combining that with using the Optislim shakes once a day. I don't get hungry at lunchtime so am having the shake then. A small breakfast does me too. It means I can snack after dinner and not stress. I mostly snack on raw carrots & beans. I try to have veggies chopped & ready for the munchies attacks.

Been at it for four weeks &. Have lost almost 2 kilos (not sure hob that converts). Jeans a little looser already so I'm sticking to it.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: AgnesNitt on October 12, 2013, 06:06:06 PM
Weight Watchers Activelink. So WW has this little body activity monitor called an Activelink. I know others in my group have had a lot of success, so I tried it. Geeze, the thing says I never get more than a couple of points a day. Even on a day when I skated for an hour and was moving the entire time, it said 1 Point *for the day*. Really!? So I cancelled my activelink account.

I went through the active link instructions and set the activity to 'ice skating' and made sure the link was properly positioned. Zip. Nada.

Any other experiences?

Oh, and PS, now that I've disconnected the activelink account, I have no way of looking up my activity points since my WW account is still tied to the disconnected activeline.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: SynchKat on October 13, 2013, 09:14:00 AM
Accordion - there are 2.2 pounds per kilo so that is almost 5 lbs.  Great job.  I'm Canadian where we just metric for some things but weight and height we typically use imperial measurements.  We're weird. 

I had to go buy new pants the other day because I am down 2 sizes.  Haven't seen size 8 for a long time.  I'm going to really have to get my skating partner/dressmaker/friend to make up a new patter for my dresses this year.  :)
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: accordion on October 14, 2013, 05:45:05 AM
Accordion - there are 2.2 pounds per kilo so that is almost 5 lbs.  Great job.  I'm Canadian where we just metric for some things but weight and height we typically use imperial measurements.  We're weird. 

I had to go buy new pants the other day because I am down 2 sizes.  Haven't seen size 8 for a long time.  I'm going to really have to get my skating partner/dressmaker/friend to make up a new patter for my dresses this year.  :)

Yay!!! 5 pounds sounds so much better than almost 2 kilos. New & smaller clothes is great. Well done to you too.

It's funny, I can do imperial or metric for most distances & volumes. But not for areas or weights.  :nvm:
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: SynchKat on October 14, 2013, 11:18:18 AM
I am the opposite.  Distances, liquid measures and temperature especially are all metric for me.  For cooking though grams makes more sense over ounces and pounds.  Weird. 

It has been Thanksgiving this weekend here in Canada so I kind of let the diet slip.  I will be back on the diet wagon again starting today
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: AgnesNitt on November 09, 2013, 09:20:42 AM
Down 2 lbs this week!

I switched to eating soup for two meals a day, it fills me up and I lost weight. I picked that up from a BBC show on dieting.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: accordion on November 13, 2013, 03:04:09 AM
Well done to AgnesNitt!!!!

I've gained a little. But that is because I had almost 6 weeks with no activity and a bit of comfort eating, brought on by a bike accident. Now that I'm back on the ice and bike, and back on the careful eating wagon I expect I'll start dropping the weight again.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: SynchKat on November 19, 2013, 03:08:54 PM
Great job Agnes.

I am a mere 4 pounds away from my goal for weight loss.  I am going to look good in all my skating costumes this year!!  :)  Might start wearing them around town...well maybe not.

People keep asking me what I've done and I tell them as someone summed it up to me common sense...exercise more and eat less. Funny how that works.  :)
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: AgnesNitt on January 07, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
I have a Weight Watchers blog now. Just for grins.

http://icesk8dance.tumblr.com
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: accordion on January 08, 2014, 01:44:36 AM
I have a Weight Watchers blog now. Just for grins.

http://icesk8dance.tumblr.com

Thought this showed your deft touch.  :)
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: SynchKat on January 09, 2014, 08:27:18 AM
Love it Agnes!  Now I really want some chocolate though.
Title: Re: Weight Watchers and Skating
Post by: taka on January 09, 2014, 08:45:28 AM
Love it Agnes!  Now I really want some chocolate though.
Me too! An apple will just have to do! :'(
Love the new blog! ;D